navyflyhigh
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Having worked for the airlines in the past and seen the problems it causes, yes, fat people should have to buy multiple tickets if they are too big for one seat. Thats my vote.
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should fat people pay more?
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What problems does it cause? When it comes to cost per flight hour, airlines should be worrying about weight not volume.
navyflyhigh
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It does not affect the airline in terms of cost one way or the other. It is a matter of customer comfort and satisfaction. Airlines have to keep their customers happy. Would you be a happy customer if the person next to you was half way in your seat the entire flight?
How does it not affect the airline in terms of cost? More weight equals more fuel burned, the four forces of flight and all that. They didn't teach basic aero at the skycap counter?
navyflyhigh
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I meant it does not affect the airline in terms of cost in a sense that one fat person buying two tickets is the same as two skinny people buying two tickets. The airlines are never going to make people step on a scale to buy a ticket. It is the volume that matters, not the weight.
navyflyhigh
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And I'm not arguing that more weight means more fuel burned (I thought that went without saying). But the problem at hand with the airlines is the comfort factor.
I have to agree with everyone else that despise sitting next fat people on airlines. I remember one time I was on a non-stop from Boston to Norfolk after Christmas and I was in the aisle seat. The chick who sat next to me was so "rotunde" that the FA had to get her a friggin' seatbelt extender!! Needless to say, 2.5 hours of this chick's fat rolls pressed up against me and practically forcing me to mold myself around the armrest on the opposite side of my seat from her made me a bit upset. The point when I damn near lost it was when I got up to exit the plane and I had a sweat stain on my side from midthigh to my shoulder...but it wasn't ME that was sweating!! In a word, repulsive!
navyflyhigh
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First of all, that is disgusting haha. I feel your pain. I was on a flight from Norfolk to P-Cola (thankfully it was a short flight) and was in the middle of two huge guys (probably both 6-2 and between 260 and 280 lbs). One was using his laptop and the other was reading a newspaper. I had to make a serious effort to streamline my body the entire flight. I was exhausted by the time we landed.
Dumb question.... how so?Stupid people cost the airlines a lot more than fatties ...
I think the question isn't so much for the ultra-fatties that take up two seats, the real question concerns people who are marginal. (ie: The people who are right on the borderline)
How do you objectively determine ahead of time who should pay for an extra seat and who should not?
How do you objectively determine ahead of time who should pay for an extra seat and who should not?
MasterBates
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To hell with objective..
FA = Fat ass
A = Average
SK = Skinny
Just like Above, Below and Average.. You know it when you see it.
MPTS is for homos
FA = Fat ass
A = Average
SK = Skinny
Just like Above, Below and Average.. You know it when you see it.
MPTS is for homos
The fat people argument I always hate getting is when they try to convince you that being fat is genetic and the only reason they're fat is because their parents were fat. Total Frickin Bu115h!t.
I always ask them to explain to me how evolution favors morbidly obese pigs, and if that doesn't make them cry, they usually answer with "it allows me to survive without food longer than you". (which is so wrong BTW, but i'm not getting into an anatomy lesson here) My response is always "Sun Tzu say I don't have to be fast runner, just faster than slowest person in range."
People are genetically predisposed to be more like Gerard Butler than Rosie O'Donnell. If your fat its cause you didn't eat right or exercise enough. And if you claim its your parents fault, unless they locked you indoors 24/7/365 your entire life, there was nothing stopping your from breaking a sweat and choosing to eat better.
And the whole thyroid excuse doesn't hold water either. My mother doesn't even HAVE a thyroid, and one little pill in the morning makes up for it without any side effects whatsoever.
I always ask them to explain to me how evolution favors morbidly obese pigs, and if that doesn't make them cry, they usually answer with "it allows me to survive without food longer than you". (which is so wrong BTW, but i'm not getting into an anatomy lesson here) My response is always "Sun Tzu say I don't have to be fast runner, just faster than slowest person in range."
People are genetically predisposed to be more like Gerard Butler than Rosie O'Donnell. If your fat its cause you didn't eat right or exercise enough. And if you claim its your parents fault, unless they locked you indoors 24/7/365 your entire life, there was nothing stopping your from breaking a sweat and choosing to eat better.
And the whole thyroid excuse doesn't hold water either. My mother doesn't even HAVE a thyroid, and one little pill in the morning makes up for it without any side effects whatsoever.
Amen brother! :icon_zbee
your total weight (you plus bags), divided by total weight of passenger compartment and cargo hold at 95% occupancy averaged out over last ten flights.
Ex 1: 180 lb person, plus 30lbs luggage out of a total average capacity of 40,000 lbs available equals .52 percent
.52 percent of ((cost per mile plus profit margin)) x mileage)= rate
Ex 2: 250 lb, plus 30 lbs equals .7 percent
Ex 3: 300 lb plus 30lbs equals .825 percent
So, that fatty would be paying half again as much as you.
JMMH
Ugh.
Is this really a problem? I've flown a lot and it doesn't really seem to be that big of an issue.
Maybe b/c I'm borderline little person, but I've never ran into this and there have been some big people next to me. Maybe it's only a problem when 2 big people sit next to each other? I'm just saying....
I do have problems with the almost drunk person, the teenager with headphones loud enough for me to hear, the person who has body odor and conversely too much perfume/cologne...
But then again they do have to deal with the pregnant woman who has get up to pee... and often.
Maybe b/c I'm borderline little person, but I've never ran into this and there have been some big people next to me. Maybe it's only a problem when 2 big people sit next to each other? I'm just saying....
I do have problems with the almost drunk person, the teenager with headphones loud enough for me to hear, the person who has body odor and conversely too much perfume/cologne...
But then again they do have to deal with the pregnant woman who has get up to pee... and often.