Alcohol, Primary, DOR and ADSEP

[Brett327]

I respectfully disagree with this (98% of employers not caring about DD-214)

Let's engage in an active listening exercise. You can repeat back the main points of my post on this topic, then I can point out how nothing I said even remotely resembles what your post claims that I said.

 

[FormerRecruitingGuru]

Let's engage in an active listening exercise. You can repeat back the main points of my post on this topic, then I can point out how nothing I said even remotely resembles what your post claims that I said.

We’re talking through each other. Lay off the O-6 toughness and vino Volo.

 

[Brett327]

We’re talking through each other. Lay off the O-6 toughness and vino Volo.

WTF are you talking about? You posted that you disagreed with my post, then stated your point of disagreement, which had nothing to do with what I posted. Exactly what are you disagreeing with?

 

[exNavyOffRec]

Discharge type can matter for follow on employment, but I think there's a lot of disinformation out there on what it all means. There's a classic line that Sailors get told about "not even being able to work at McDonalds" if they have the wrong kind of discharge. I think that's mostly hyperbole, though I'm sure @Hozer may be able to illuminate us on things that he has seen.

FWIW, I'm an employee of the State of Washington, and nobody asked me for my DD-214... though I'm just a vineyard worker.

I haven't had to ask any candidate or submit my DD-214 when I applied for a job except when I submitted for a government job. I have heard from friends that if they applied for a role with a civilian employer who had government contracts they needed to submit a copy, not sure if there was more to that or not.

 

[FormerRecruitingGuru]

WTF are you talking about? You posted that you disagreed with my post, then stated your point of disagreement, which had nothing to do with what I posted. Exactly what are you disagreeing with?

That discharge type will not matter 98% of the time.

 

[Brett327]

That discharge type will not matter 98% of the time.

OK, please point out where I said that.

 

[sevenhelmet]

I respectfully disagree with this (98% of employers not caring about DD-214) and your Vino Volo part at the end explains it.

- Civilian Sector.

This forum needs a “?” Reaction.

 

[VMO4]

Wishing the OP the best of luck in his life and decisions, on the other point. I am 62. I have worked for myself, a local government agency, a state government agency, and turned down a job offer with a federal agency, in positions from sworn law enforcement to attorney, hold FAA licenses and USCG Master licenses, and I lost my DD-214 around 1986 and have never had anybody ask for a copy. I do have a little experience doing background checks in several of these agencies, and if an employer cared, it was only about a BCD, none cared or even understood honorable, less than honorable, general , ADSEP, or any other acronym. Just my experience.

I do, however, look at my discharge on my wall every morning and smile when I get out of bed.

 

[Gatordev]

I have heard from friends that if they applied for a role with a civilian employer who had government contracts they needed to submit a copy

Both companies I've worked for post-Navy have major government contracts and neither has asked for my -214 as an employer. EQIP is obviously a different animal, but that was separate from the hiring process. I'm guessing there was more to the story.

 

[taxi1]

I've only ever needed my DD-214 while working with the DoD (Navy retirement, VA) which you would think they could look it up since they gave it to me.

I just went through a big rigamorale here at Big State University where I didn't have an I-9 form and a completed eVerify in my (30 years working here) records, leading to a steady stream of emails and texts to get it completed NOW.

Wonder what caused all that fuss?

 

[exNavyOffRec]

Both companies I've worked for post-Navy have major government contracts and neither has asked for my -214 as an employer. EQIP is obviously a different animal, but that was separate from the hiring process. I'm guessing there was more to the story.

Good to know, I didn't bother to ask more as to why from them so I am sure there is more to the story.