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sTUPID qUESTIONS aBOUT ocs

100water1

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Sorry if this has already been asked. But what do new SWOs do when they finish BDOC? From what I can understand so far, they get assigned to a ship or port and move. I assume SWOs get BAH; what happens when they're out at sea for 7 months? Do they still receive BAH and pay for an empty place where they keep all their stuff? Or does it all need to be put in storage?
 

Larick

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Sorry if this has already been asked. But what do new SWOs do when they finish BDOC? From what I can understand so far, they get assigned to a ship or port and move. I assume SWOs get BAH; what happens when they're out at sea for 7 months? Do they still receive BAH and pay for an empty place where they keep all their stuff? Or does it all need to be put in storage?
After BDOC, you go through some additional schools (bridge/shiphandling training/job specific) before showing up to your ship. Yes, SWOs get BAH, but it is not really job specific to get it. Officers just have to request it when they check in with their ship admin. When you are out at sea for some time you still get BAH as long as you are living out in town in your homeport. Depending on your rental lease's end date, and if you like the place, you can keep your rental while you're gone. Then just have autopay for the rent and the required utilities until you get back. If your lease is about to end before you leave, and you hate the place, then just throw your stuff in storage/sell it/ throw it out. Then you just gotta figure out where you wanna live again when you get back. Some do throw their stuff in storage since it might make sense for them, and their timing, to pay storage fees vice an apartment ($150ish vs $2,300ish). Most just renew their leases and then just break the lease once they get new PCS orders. Really its just about your lease timing, how much time you have left in your homeport/ship, and how much money you wanna save at the end of the day. But if you do a 5th Fleet deployment, then money ain't a thing ;)
 

100water1

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After BDOC, you go through some additional schools (bridge/shiphandling training/job specific) before showing up to your ship. Yes, SWOs get BAH, but it is not really job specific to get it. Officers just have to request it when they check in with their ship admin. When you are out at sea for some time you still get BAH as long as you are living out in town in your homeport. Depending on your rental lease's end date, and if you like the place, you can keep your rental while you're gone. Then just have autopay for the rent and the required utilities until you get back. If your lease is about to end before you leave, and you hate the place, then just throw your stuff in storage/sell it/ throw it out. Then you just gotta figure out where you wanna live again when you get back. Some do throw their stuff in storage since it might make sense for them, and their timing, to pay storage fees vice an apartment ($150ish vs $2,300ish). Most just renew their leases and then just break the lease once they get new PCS orders. Really its just about your lease timing, how much time you have left in your homeport/ship, and how much money you wanna save at the end of the day. But if you do a 5th Fleet deployment, then money ain't a thing ;)
Thanks. I've seen you replying to people on here sometimes, always super helpful. Appreciate it
 

kookylukey

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depends. Mostly eye stuff. I know one got DQd for having gone to the ER for a migraine (and reported it to medical during MEPS)
Bit him in the ass.

yeah it’s usually eyes though.
Yes, I saw this personally. It happens.
Did you guys see anyone get DQ'd there from a surgery or anything like that? I've already passed and been approved medically for OCS, but hearing people are getting DQ'd when they get there has me a little shook.
 

kookylukey

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Considering the percentage of aviators in each class changes, it depends. We had around 35 aviators (SNA and NFO) and probably had about 5-7 DQ's out of the aviators alone.
Gotcha, so not an insignificant number, but also not like 1 out of every 2 are getting dropped. Thanks for the info. Can't control it so may as well not worry about it, especially when at least 80% of SNAs/SNFOs are getting cleared no problem ¯\(ツ)
 

Ghost SWO

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Gotcha, so not an insignificant number, but also not like 1 out of every 2 are getting dropped. Thanks for the info. Can't control it so may as well not worry about it, especially when at least 80% of SNAs/SNFOs are getting cleared no problem ¯\(ツ)
That's the best attitude to have, it's out of your control. This is why people say you should want to be a Navy officer first and foremost. You never know what's going to happen.
 

HAL Pilot

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That's the best attitude to have, it's out of your control. This is why people say you should want to be a Navy officer first and foremost. You never know what's going to happen.
Bullshit. If you want to be a pilot and get medically DQed at the OCS physical, you can just leave. No reason to accept years doing something other than what you wanted.
 

Ghost SWO

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Bullshit. If you want to be a pilot and get medically DQed at the OCS physical, you can just leave. No reason to accept years doing something other than what you wanted.
I agree wholeheartedly. There's nothing stopping anyone from doing that, it didn't stop me either. I chose to leave, but that's a very tough pill to swallow (especially being prior service and wanting to make the switch to officer). I was returning to pilot training back home so it made it made my decision easier but it's a lot to walk away from.

I say that because I understand the notion of wanting to be an officer first and foremost now having gone through all of that and having to make that decision. It all depends on what it is they want more, to be a pilot, or to be an officer.

I chose to be a pilot. From what I had seen, most choose to stick it out, especially if they already graduated OCS and are in student pool waiting for medical clearance. I think at that point you feel obligated to continue and not make the past six months of Navy time seem like a waste of your time.

I was already two months into student pool post-OCS when I got my DQ from SNA and NFO. It made it tough to walk away and brought a new perspective on the, "being an officer first", thing.
 

PEFO Silver-Shades

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I agree wholeheartedly. There's nothing stopping anyone from doing that, it didn't stop me either. I chose to leave, but that's a very tough pill to swallow (especially being prior service and wanting to make the switch to officer). I was returning to pilot training back home so it made it made my decision easier but it's a lot to walk away from.

I say that because I understand the notion of wanting to be an officer first and foremost now having gone through all of that and having to make that decision. It all depends on what it is they want more, to be a pilot, or to be an officer.

I chose to be a pilot. From what I had seen, most choose to stick it out, especially if they already graduated OCS and are in student pool waiting for medical clearance. I think at that point you feel obligated to continue and not make the past six months of Navy time seem like a waste of your time.

I was already two months into student pool post-OCS when I got my DQ from SNA and NFO. It made it tough to walk away and brought a new perspective on the, "being an officer first", thing.
if you dont mind me asking what specifically DQ'd you?
 

Ghost SWO

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if you dont mind me asking what specifically DQ'd you?
A small "pigment epithelial detachment" in my left eye. To be fair, freckles in your eye are disqualifying too, the difference is whether a waiver is granted. My issue was completely asymptomatic but they didn't take their chances with it, and chose not to grant a waiver.
 

PEFO Silver-Shades

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A small "pigment epithelial detachment" in my left eye. To be fair, freckles in your eye are disqualifying too, the difference is whether a waiver is granted. My issue was completely asymptomatic but they didn't take their chances with it, and chose not to grant a waiver.
Damn man, im sorry to hear that. that seems like pretty rare circumstance?
 

Ghost SWO

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Damn man, im sorry to hear that. that seems like pretty rare circumstance?
It was rare yeah. The ophthalmologist said he'd never seen anything quite like it. Yay me. A couple others were DQ'd for their eyes but they already knew their vision was borderline 20/40 or something along those lines, and they were automatically sent for an NFO board (assuming they still met the medical criteria for NFO) and were then re-designated to NFO. I had no idea going in, I never needed an eye exam until the flight physical at OCS.
 
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