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Football season cometh.

Which conference will have the National Champion?


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Griz882

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The odds of running through a brick wall are better than convincing a rational person that “only the AP vote keeps the SEC looking good”. Pretty much every possible metric shows that to be false. Again, the dissonance of an Oklahoma fan making such a claim when his school just slithered into the SEC from their sinking ship of a conference just adds to the hilarity.
Every metric shows the SEC has two very good teams. I stand by my statement…if there was a true playoff the SEC would do fine, but not win consistently.
 
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Treetop Flyer

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Every metric shows the SEC has two very good teams. I stand by my statement…if there was a true playoff the SEC would do fine, but not win consistently.
This year the SEC appears to have two elite teams. Facing worse teams in a playoff Will somehow make the SEC lose? Often there aren’t even four teams that can stay competitive in the playoff.

Check out the enormous talent advantage the SEC has. Oops I mean just Bama and Georgia.


The Big12 is significantly closer to the AAC and C-USA in talent than the SEC.
 

Griz882

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This year the SEC appears to have two elite teams. Facing worse teams in a playoff Will somehow make the SEC lose? Often there aren’t even four teams that can stay competitive in the playoff.

Check out the enormous talent advantage the SEC has. Oops I mean just Bama and Georgia.


The Big12 is significantly closer to the AAC and C-USA in talent than the SEC.
There is more parity in college football than you imagine. Maybe every team can join the SEC as the “only” conference and we would see.
 

Treetop Flyer

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There is more parity in college football than you imagine. Maybe every team can join the SEC as the “only” conference and we would see.
If the facts were on your side you’d be citing facts like me. Since they’re not, you’re making unsupported claims and conspiracy theories.
 

Griz882

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If the facts were on your side you’d be citing facts like me. Since they’re not, you’re making unsupported claims and conspiracy theories.
Facts:
1. To find a decent SEC quarterback in the NFL you have to go all the way down to #11 to find a former Detroit Lion having his first good year after years in the NFL. The greats are from other conferences.

2. Norte Dame and USC lead all colleges with NFL drafts at 511. Ohio State has had 473 drafted, and OU 400. Michigan is next (where is the SEC?) with 387. Don’t worry, there at a weak #6 is Alabama with a lowly 384. Just to keep things lively, the only other SEC team in the top 10 is LSU with 359. Other winners include Penn State, Florida and Nebraska.

3. Heisman winners? OU, Notre Dame, and Ohio State are tied at 7 each…Alabama is tied with Army (and others) at 3. The rest of the SEC are also-rans.

4. Butkus winners? SEC 8…Big 12 9.

ESPN’s greatest college football teams in history? Nebraska twice (ranked #1 and #3) , OU twice (ranked #8 and #9), USC #2, Army #4, Miami #5, Michigan #6, Notre Dame #7…and the only SEC team ranked…Alabama at #10.

Winning in the NFL? Sure, the SEC gets a lot of names called on draft night, but Big 10 and other conferences tend to produce winners in terms of Super Bowls wins. In fact it takes two Mannings and Bart Starr to match a single QB from the University of Michigan.

Facts, while funny things, are facts.
 

Griz882

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Setting aside the fun of poking the SEC, the Penn State Iowa game looks like a fight to the end.
 

jmcquate

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Play the teams who are dangerous to lose to, when you control the schedule. you control the rankings.
 

Treetop Flyer

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Facts:
1. To find a decent SEC quarterback in the NFL you have to go all the way down to #11 to find a former Detroit Lion having his first good year after years in the NFL. The greats are from other conferences.

2. Norte Dame and USC lead all colleges with NFL drafts at 511. Ohio State has had 473 drafted, and OU 400. Michigan is next (where is the SEC?) with 387. Don’t worry, there at a weak #6 is Alabama with a lowly 384. Just to keep things lively, the only other SEC team in the top 10 is LSU with 359. Other winners include Penn State, Florida and Nebraska.

3. Heisman winners? OU, Notre Dame, and Ohio State are tied at 7 each…Alabama is tied with Army (and others) at 3. The rest of the SEC are also-rans.

4. Butkus winners? SEC 8…Big 12 9.

ESPN’s greatest college football teams in history? Nebraska twice (ranked #1 and #3) , OU twice (ranked #8 and #9), USC #2, Army #4, Miami #5, Michigan #6, Notre Dame #7…and the only SEC team ranked…Alabama at #10.

Winning in the NFL? Sure, the SEC gets a lot of names called on draft night, but Big 10 and other conferences tend to produce winners in terms of Super Bowls wins. In fact it takes two Mannings and Bart Starr to match a single QB from the University of Michigan.

Facts, while funny things, are facts.
1: Dak Prescott isn’t “decent”?

2: You’re talking history. I’m talking right now and the recent past which is why I cited the current make up of the NFL which overwhelmingly shows the SEC is where the most talent comes from.

3: That’s also history

4: That’s also history

ESPN’s greatest teams all time is also obviously history.

The SEC is the dominant conference because that’s where the talent is, and because they dominate the other conferences on the field. If you want to compare ancient history I guess Harvard and Army are good too.
 

nittany03

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Setting aside the fun of poking the SEC, the Penn State Iowa game looks like a fight to the end.
God, this is going to take minutes off my life. And I didn't preflight my fridge, so I'm out of beer after 1.
 

Griz882

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1: Dak Prescott isn’t “decent”?

2: You’re talking history. I’m talking right now and the recent past which is why I cited the current make up of the NFL which overwhelmingly shows the SEC is where the most talent comes from.

3: That’s also history

4: That’s also history

ESPN’s greatest teams all time is also obviously history.

The SEC is the dominant conference because that’s where the talent is, and because they dominate the other conferences on the field. If you want to compare ancient history I guess Harvard and Army are good too.
1. He’s not rated in the top 10.

2. History is all we have.

3. History is all we have.

As for the rest…until the SEC can catch up history is ALL we have. If you look on the bright side, once OU and Texas move there their numbers will go way, way “up.”
 

Treetop Flyer

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1. He’s not rated in the top 10.

2. History is all we have.

3. History is all we have.

As for the rest…until the SEC can catch up history is ALL we have. If you look on the bright side, once OU and Texas move there their numbers will go way, way “up.”
You have to be top ten to be decent?

History is important. That’s why I pointed out that for the last 15 years the SEC has been utterly dominant. Was Michigan good in the 90’s or some other team good in the 50’s? Who cares? I’ll admit the ancient history is a more entertaining deflection than the “AP and sports journalism are conspiring to prop up the SEC”
 

Randy Daytona

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Facts:
1. To find a decent SEC quarterback in the NFL you have to go all the way down to #11 to find a former Detroit Lion having his first good year after years in the NFL. The greats are from other conferences.

2. Norte Dame and USC lead all colleges with NFL drafts at 511. Ohio State has had 473 drafted, and OU 400. Michigan is next (where is the SEC?) with 387. Don’t worry, there at a weak #6 is Alabama with a lowly 384. Just to keep things lively, the only other SEC team in the top 10 is LSU with 359. Other winners include Penn State, Florida and Nebraska.

3. Heisman winners? OU, Notre Dame, and Ohio State are tied at 7 each…Alabama is tied with Army (and others) at 3. The rest of the SEC are also-rans.

4. Butkus winners? SEC 8…Big 12 9.

ESPN’s greatest college football teams in history? Nebraska twice (ranked #1 and #3) , OU twice (ranked #8 and #9), USC #2, Army #4, Miami #5, Michigan #6, Notre Dame #7…and the only SEC team ranked…Alabama at #10.

Winning in the NFL? Sure, the SEC gets a lot of names called on draft night, but Big 10 and other conferences tend to produce winners in terms of Super Bowls wins. In fact it takes two Mannings and Bart Starr to match a single QB from the University of Michigan.

Facts, while funny things, are facts.

Any idea what the numbers are for this century?
 

nittany03

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So I guess waving to the kids gives you a free pass to turn around and boo injured players. Because when they come back from the locker room in street clothes and sometimes on crutches, well, obviously that’s just James Franklin’s galaxy brain 4D chess to slow the game down.
 
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