Mine is an officer, and When I say this I mean it in no way offensive towards enlisted, but I’m glad he is. Only because he can answer questions about being an officer.
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24MAY2021 Pilot/NFO Board
- Thread starter luckynumbr27
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exNavyOffRec
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you don't see too many LDO's on recruiting duty, that is rare.
exNavyOffRec
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Depending on what the designator is, a CPO in that field can answer almost all the questions if the are in the same field.
Are LDO’s not rare in general?
Stephen0692
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I've heard that JO's are mostly mentored by their Chiefs early on anyway at least in surface warfare and EOD - do you think it's the same way in aviation? The long training pipeline seems like it might make things a little different
You all realize we will have Chief RDC’s and Gunny DI’s pushing us through OCS right? I would argue that chiefs will understand your job and scope of responsibilities much better than you will, atleast till you reach some good tenure in the Navy. If you’re going in thinking just because your an O1 and you got your degree in History that you’re better than a Chief, you’re going to get humbled real quick, believe me. Most chiefs I met have their graduate degrees as well.
One of my favorite sea stories is of a Senior Chief calling a LT because he forgot to log his flight hours and cut his discrepancies. When that LT said he was about to be home, that Senior Chiefs response was “I don’t give a fuck, turn your ass around and get back here to complete your fucking job”. Sure enough, that LT came back to work and got another ass chewing by that Senior Chief. It was pretty awesome to witness. But just goes to show, it won’t stop after OCS ?
Stephen0692
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Preach, this is actually the point I was trying to make earlier. That question was specifically about what the mentorship dynamic is like in aviation compared to surface and spec ops though
villo0692
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since someone brought up EOD....I gotta ask @exNavyOffRec.... I am aware that out of all the applicants for EOD officer they pick like 4 or 5 for the entire year. What is it that they look for in their candidates? is it a must for them to be prior EOD enlisted? or something else? that designator called my attention a lot upon hearing about it, and I feel that I would have no problem finishing the training, however, those less than encouraging numbers deterred me from even applying, coupled with the fact that there is ONE board a year. Also, I was told that if you have more than one choice besides EOD in your package, even if the latter is the first choice, the board will pretty much reject you right away....anything in your experience about this designator?
JDurkin
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I would imagine that when not flying, a Pilot/ NFO will be fulfilling the role of DIVO or maintenance Officer. There will be a chief that’s also assigned to said group who would mentor a JO in a more on the job training format of leading.
In the Seabees, our JOs are usually assigned as platoon commanders with each platoon having its own chief. The Platoon commander runs the show but the chief is always standing right next to them whispering in their ear so it’s not hard to imagine what’s happening.
Really, keep in mind that yes you do our rank a chief as an officer, but that Chief has many many years of experience on you and very rarely are they going to be mistaken. The best JOs will respect their chiefs experience and appreciate their advice, but still maintain that they are a leader and are expected to make the final decision based off the advisement of their experienced enlisted personnel.
GodSpeed1997
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So who’s texting their recruiter today ?
j.marlow24
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Straight to business, I like it @GodSpeed1997
Yes, you’re right. I guess my point was that chiefs will mostly always play a role in a JO’s upcoming ??♂️
I wasn’t saying they aren’t a good person to answer questions I may have. However, when it comes to asking about the lifestyle, and general politics of being an officer as well as career trajectory would a chief really be the best to ask about that? Besides my OR was a chief at one point, so it’s like the best of both worlds.
kookylukey
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Recruiter said my profile was updated, have an FY21 OCS date, but my profile didn't say if I'm SNA or SNFO since I think my application got submitted for both. So guess I have to wait more until I find out what exactly... but good news about an OCS date. Anyone gotten recommended for both SNA and SNFO and gotten to pick?
luckynumbr27
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Ahhh, a fellow sof enthusiast. In a past life before I was an undesignated sailor, I attended one of those storied Navy schools as a 21 year old college grad. It wasn’t EOD, SWCC, Diver, or Air Crew so I’ll just leave it at that. I tried going back as an E and even worked with my CCC on an O package when my year group closed due to overmanning and when I got no luck I asked about EOD and she said “you better be a prior service EOD tech or they won’t touch you.” I talked with one of the EOD O’s on our deployment and he was an academy guy and he pretty much backed up what my CCC said. Said they pretty much promote from within and if there is a spot open at the end, they’ll take an academy guy. That’s my experience anyway, interested to hear if ExOfficer has had success getting guys in as a recruiter.
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