Right, but the one that actually causes a painful sensation that was referred to earlier uses RF energy and is basically a targetable micro-wave oven. That one is called the Active Denial System.
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The Great Pirates off the Somali Coast thread
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We actually received a tasking order to blast Phil Collins at pirates that had hijacked a cargo ship about 2 years back.
Not sure if it brought them to their knees...but somebody in 5th/6th Fleet (forget who had Africa then) had a sense of humor.
A couple of things. The first is that I am having trouble thinking which Phil Collins song would be the best weapon. The second is that I am wondering if Phil Collins is actually aware his masterful creation is being used as a weapon in a Val Kilmer "Real Genius" sort of way.
Possibly an ignorant question... why use something like an LRAD against pirates? If all that happens to pirates is that they get scared off by some noise, why would they stop? Bullets are cheaper and easier. And probably a better deterrent.
I can understand using it against unruly crowds or something where you care about the lives of the people involved... but against pirates? Those pirates certainly don't care about YOUR life.
I can understand using it against unruly crowds or something where you care about the lives of the people involved... but against pirates? Those pirates certainly don't care about YOUR life.
I hope so, but I wouldn't bet my life on it without a backup plan.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/175980/output/print
"...we hijacked some of them even after they fired the sonic guns. Truly
speaking, when we go to sea we are drunk..."
I don't know if the article is genuine or not. In this context I think an alternate translation for "drunk" would be "high/stoned" as in high on qat.
For the record being on the business end of an LRAD is not on my list of fun things to do someday
What's an F-4 or VIGI in burner @ >200' away on take-off?? Just curious ...
090513-N-0743B-084 GULF OF ADEN (May 13, 2009) Members of a visit, board, search and seizure (VBSS) team from the guided-missile cruiser USS Gettysburg (CG 64) and U.S. Coast Tactical Law Enforcement Team South Detachment 409 capture suspected pirates after responding to a merchant vessel distress signal while operating in the Combined Maritime Forces (CMF) area of responsibility as part of Combined Task Force (CTF) 151. CTF 151 is a multinational task force established to conduct counter-piracy operations under a mission-based mandate throughout the CMF area of responsibility to actively deter, disrupt and suppress piracy in order to protect global maritime security and secure freedom of navigation for the benefit of all nations. (U.S. Navy photos by Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Eric L. Beauregard/Released)
Two questions:
Was Nancy Pelosi aware of that?
Do they need to pay Phil Collins royalties every time they do that?
Another catch and release episode
090602-N-0000X-001 GULF OF ADEN (June 2, 2009) Royal Marines embarked aboard the Royal Navy frigate HMS Portland (F 79) investigate two suspected pirate skiffs in the Gulf of Aden. The skiffs, with 10 people aboard, were equipped with extra barrels of fuel, grappling hooks and a cache of weapons that included rocket propelled grenades, machine guns and ammunition. Due to insufficient evidence to directly link the group to a specific attack, the suspected pirates were disarmed and released. Portland destroyed one of the skiffs and confiscated the weapons. (Royal Navy photo by Alex Cave/Released)
090602-N-0000X-001 GULF OF ADEN (June 2, 2009) Royal Marines embarked aboard the Royal Navy frigate HMS Portland (F 79) investigate two suspected pirate skiffs in the Gulf of Aden. The skiffs, with 10 people aboard, were equipped with extra barrels of fuel, grappling hooks and a cache of weapons that included rocket propelled grenades, machine guns and ammunition. Due to insufficient evidence to directly link the group to a specific attack, the suspected pirates were disarmed and released. Portland destroyed one of the skiffs and confiscated the weapons. (Royal Navy photo by Alex Cave/Released)
Is Her Majesty's RN getting soft in it's old age!?
My initial reaction too, then I read it again
"...insufficient evidence to directly link the group to a specific attack..."
and had two more thoughts:
-OK, so it's not necessarily illegal to possess any of that stuff out on the high seas (I know, I know, we have too many lawyers) even if that kind of gear goes way beyond fishing and self-defence.*
-I would bet there is more to this story, I give our British cousins the benefit of the doubt, and I should probably leave it at that.
* I used the Queen's spelling, but is it still funny if I have to explain the joke? Is this thing on???
What crime had they commited?
CWJones411
IRR
None. But going from this:
...to a slap on the wrist looks like they're getting soft to me.
When you come back to reality, let us know.
Therein lies the rub....no crime per ROE, but they did have tools aboard that were hardly for fishing purposes and those were confiscated.