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The Great Flight Jacket Thread (wearing/buying Leather, NOMEX, WEP jackets/patches)
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Skeeterman
Banned
Here is a M-422a (1940-1950 issue) U.S. Navy flight jacket.
I was one of the last pilots at Pensacola in 1950 to get one of these.
The G-1 came a few weeks later.
This photo is a Gibson & Barnes (aka Flight Suits, Inc) M-422a my repro make of very good goatskin with the real mouton fur collar. Just like the 1940s originals.
I was one of the last pilots at Pensacola in 1950 to get one of these.
The G-1 came a few weeks later.
This photo is a Gibson & Barnes (aka Flight Suits, Inc) M-422a my repro make of very good goatskin with the real mouton fur collar. Just like the 1940s originals.
Got a jacket from them. It's above and beyond what I was issued at Pcola. The leather is so much nicer and more supple, and the color feels nice and soft. No buyer's remorse there. My squadron is getting leather patches from them, but I won't see them for a few months.
Back in the early 70's I really don't remember any regs concerning patches on flight jackets. If there were, in fact, any regs, I guess we just ignored them. Most of us were very creative about putting patches on our jackets. In fact, one of the most important roles for jg's in our squadron was the important responsibility for designing and procuring original patches.
Following my tour in VN, I flew with the AF in Europe, who decided that my jacket was not appropriate for VIP flights, so I called the closest Navy air field, Naples, and told them I was ordered to get a new jacket. The told me it was no problem, but it would have to be entered into my log book.
I flew down, and managed to get a new "slick", and my logbook properly updated, all in a three day trip. To this day, this for me defines a "win-win" transaction.
Following my tour in VN, I flew with the AF in Europe, who decided that my jacket was not appropriate for VIP flights, so I called the closest Navy air field, Naples, and told them I was ordered to get a new jacket. The told me it was no problem, but it would have to be entered into my log book.
I flew down, and managed to get a new "slick", and my logbook properly updated, all in a three day trip. To this day, this for me defines a "win-win" transaction.
Pictures
Yeah guys, show some of the real stuff....wanna see some real winnebago's! :icon_wink
Yeah guys, show some of the real stuff....wanna see some real winnebago's! :icon_wink
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my jacket is currently a few thousand miles away from me, so you might have to wait a few months on that. plus, it's still a virgin jacket, so there's not much to see.
phrogpilot73
Well-Known Member
Did I miss something while I was on deployment?!? Can someone PM me and tell me what happened to those guys? I'll miss them.
Back to jackets...
Ditto.
Skeeterman
Banned
KSUFLY, The Navy's Bureau of Aeronautics widened the M-422's left pocket pocket 1/2" in 1941, added a pencil slot, and designated the jacket M-422A. More noticeable with the sewn seam down the right side of the left pocket. Also, the M-422A has the letters.. USN stenciled under the collar, and the lining was a rose/burgundy Bemberg rayon/twill type.
The difference between the M-422A and the G-1. The G-1 still has the pencil slot, but no sewn seam, just a sewn hole under the pocket flap, and the punched letters USN in the so-called wind flap, which the M-422A didn't have. BTW. we (new) pilots and the other older Officers called it the "tie protector" (wind flap) as it keep the black Dacron tie from being riddled by the zipper.
Has anyone here, ever asked why the "wind flap" only came up to 3/4 to the top of the zipper? The length of the wind flap was a stopping point for the zipper, and if zipped any farther, it would allow the leather jacket to cover the rank insignias on the collar. The CO and Air Boss was very strict on proper uniform dress code.. To combat the zipper from being any father up, we inserted a paper clip into the zipper band, so the zipper wouldn't go any farther..
Now you can go back to your squadrons and tell them all about those old Navy reg's..
The difference between the M-422A and the G-1. The G-1 still has the pencil slot, but no sewn seam, just a sewn hole under the pocket flap, and the punched letters USN in the so-called wind flap, which the M-422A didn't have. BTW. we (new) pilots and the other older Officers called it the "tie protector" (wind flap) as it keep the black Dacron tie from being riddled by the zipper.
Has anyone here, ever asked why the "wind flap" only came up to 3/4 to the top of the zipper? The length of the wind flap was a stopping point for the zipper, and if zipped any farther, it would allow the leather jacket to cover the rank insignias on the collar. The CO and Air Boss was very strict on proper uniform dress code.. To combat the zipper from being any father up, we inserted a paper clip into the zipper band, so the zipper wouldn't go any farther..
Now you can go back to your squadrons and tell them all about those old Navy reg's..
I think either are allowed...and you can velcro em on too if you want to go that route.
Skeeter...love the stories...keep em coming.