M 16 and M4 Civilian Variants

[Rocketman]

Know any good places to get ammo other than AIM Surplus?

Here are some. I've used most of what I listed at one point or another. Also attached at the very bottom is the best info I've ever seen online for self defense ammo choices.

Enjoy


http://www.gun-deals.com/ammo.php - User generated info about deals on line

http://palmettostatearmory.com/226.php - good people

http://www.centerfiresystems.com/ - DD I wouldn't look here if I were you or you might have to thumb home......

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/index.php/cName/45-acp-fmj-ammo

http://www.ammoman.com/index.htm

http://www.ammo4guns.com/RIFLE_AMMO.html

http://www.the-armory.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/9mm_ammo.html

http://www.classicarms.us/ammunition.htm

http://georgia-arms.com/index.aspx

http://samcoglobal.com/index.html

http://www.northwestshootersupply.com/

http://www.natchezss.com/index.cfm?CFID=21119004&CFTOKEN=42902277

https://surplusammo.com/

http://wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=8451&dir=18|830|845

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/CategoryListing.aspx?catid=79&PN=rfa

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/browse/browseammoindex.aspx

http://www.ltdammo.com/

http://www.luckygunner.com/

http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_Defense_Ammo_FAQ/index.htm - Best Choices for Self Defense Ammo

 

[RussBow6]

Nope. We have to walk to the guns store and buy one just like everyone else.

can you buy a colt m4 from a dealer or do they only issue them to military personnel?

 

[nittany03]

can you buy a colt m4 from a dealer or do they only issue them to military personnel?

We operate just like any other citizen of this country. We don't get special privileges. If we need automatic weapons in the course of our duties, we are issued them, just as if we need an F/A-18. No M-4s were made prior to 1986. Thus no one, military or civilian, can personally own one.

 

[DangerousDan]

We operate just like any other citizen of this country. We don't get special privileges. If we need automatic weapons in the course of our duties, we are issued them, just as if we need an F/A-18. No M-4s were made prior to 1986. Thus no one, military or civilian, can personally own one.

From Wikipedia

U.S. citizen ownership

As such, only the earliest Colt M4 prototypes built prior to 19 May 1986 would be legal to own by civilians not in the categories mentioned. However, as US firearms law considers the lower receiver of a M16/M4 type rifle to be the "firearm" (the serial numbered and, in the case of machine guns, registered under federal law, part of the weapon), a registered Colt M16 (much more common than an actual M4) may be configured as an M4 by replacing the M16 upper receiver/barrel assembly with an M4 top half, and replacing the fixed rifle stock with a 4-position telescoping M4 stock.

 

[DangerousDan]

Nick Very Nice.

I went out on a limb yesterday and am now 520 dollars poorer.
Century Arms Romanian SAR-1 AK.

Also have committed to spend another 900 bucks as well.
NIB/Unfired Bushmaster Target Model A2 20"

Some good deals which I found on other fourms. I dont mind buying the AK because Im helping the guy pay his bills for the month.

Update I just happened to go and spend some more of the money burning in my pocket. Having gone over $3000, I think I have had enough for a while. The rest I can buy when I get home. Wont keep me from looking though!

Kimber Custom II $900

Sig Navy 226 $725

 

[C420sailor]

Edit: Dan beat me to it. -1 for reading comprehension.

 

[Gonzo08]

Didn't see this mentioned yet, but available at end of 2009:

http://www.hk-usa.com/mr556_general.asp

 

[utak]

Just wanted to pass another FYI.

Another Daniel Defense M4, coming out to compete with "simple" variants like the Colt 6920.

Price is 1150-ish, very nice.

 

[Junkball]

Update I just happened to go and spend some more of the money burning in my pocket. Having gone over $3000, I think I have had enough for a while. The rest I can buy when I get home. Wont keep me from looking though!

Sig Navy 226 $725

Your Sig = Love at first sight. I want it. Someday I'll have it. (not yours specifically.)

 

[DangerousDan]

Just wanted to pass another FYI.

Another Daniel Defense M4, coming out to compete with "simple" variants like the Colt 6920.

Price is 1150-ish, very nice.

I realized this was coming when I saw one on gunbroker and also from talking with the VP of sales from AIM surplus. Apparently the'll put together a good package deal once they get these.

I think if I could have one made by DD it would be a 14.5 in with a pinned suppressor and a 7.5 inch rail. I actually like the one with the rail just don't like it being out past the front sight post so much though it would be good for a bipod. Have the magpul grip and stock and a flip up site and I would be fine.


Junk, That Sig Navy was too good of a deal to pass up since I knew what new ones were selling for and it was 100 less than a new one plus came with multiple sets of hand guards plus holster and mag carriers. The kimber was also a package deal which included 2 holsters, 5 mags and 200 rounds of hollow point for the price of a new gun itself.

Trust me I am a good fan of trying to find a bargain. I found a guy at home who has a a RRA with a 14.5 in barrel which I could get for about the same price as this one. Might go and shoot it when I get home if its still around.

 

[PropAddict]

They just cashed my check for the ones I bought at auction. . .here's hoping they ship soon.

 

[FLY_USMC]

Money, I just bought a 10.5" LMT Upper for one of them that I purchased.....and the next is going to be a MK 12 MOD 0 Clone, pics to follow.

 

[DangerousDan]

I realized this was coming when I saw one on gunbroker and also from talking with the VP of sales from AIM surplus. Apparently the'll put together a good package deal once they get these.

I think if I could have one made by DD it would be a 14.5 in with a pinned suppressor and a 7.5 inch rail. I actually like the one with the rail just don't like it being out past the front sight post so much though it would be good for a bipod. Have the magpul grip and stock and a flip up site and I would be fine.


Junk, That Sig Navy was too good of a deal to pass up since I knew what new ones were selling for and it was 100 less than a new one plus came with multiple sets of hand guards plus holster and mag carriers. The kimber was also a package deal which included 2 holsters, 5 mags and 200 rounds of hollow point for the price of a new gun itself.

Trust me I am a good fan of trying to find a bargain. I found a guy at home who has a a RRA with a 14.5 in barrel which I could get for about the same price as this one. Might go and shoot it when I get home if its still around.

I ended up not going with daniel Defense. Instead saw a low round count Noveske N4 with 14.5 Inch Barrel on AR15.com and jumped on it.

 

[FLY_USMC]

In case no one else noticed, as of 7/10 they are supposed to start shipping...which makes me think the UPS notification my wife recieved "might" be my stripped lowers.

And a comment I was going to make about "FFL's" is probably better left unstated.

 

[Rocketman]

Colt AR15's - How Low Can They Go

I need another AR like I need a hole in the head but it's like Bevo said about his new Sig.... "I may be stupid but I'm not crazy". A new, never out of the box, small pin Colt LE6920 for $1099 is a damn good deal. Three months ago the same weapon was selling for $1500 or better.

I wasn't in the market but I had no choice but to break out the plastic.

They have more if anyone is interested.

http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/semi4sale.cgi?read=218312

Things are really getting soft in the AR market.

The law of supply and demand. It still works.