Dress for the job you wantI can imagine @Brett327 wars top 3 ribbons with a v-neck with his service khakis.
Dress for the job you wantI can imagine @Brett327 wars top 3 ribbons with a v-neck with his service khakis.
Huge Rog. Subjective and may change from board to board. Thanks.There have been cases where people have screened for command, then not picked up O5. Different boards have different personalities and value slightly different things. Stat board might place very little value on things like CDO/UW and JPME, where ACSB makes those de facto requirements. Also depends on how well your record is briefed in both cases.
I am 8 months from end of DH tour and picking post-DH orders
That was my point -- my poor timing in my shore tour was a big hit to my record.The peculiarities of the ACSB notwithstanding, I bet you have pretty good career SA on where you stand in your DH Tour and if that record is competitive for Command. Are you in the running for a long (>7-8 month) #1? Ideally your front office has signaled to you already roughly what your record will look like come O4 FITREP time, as it plays for post-DH orders.
This year helos (both HSC and HSM) took zero from a Test Background for OP Command. Also we're now significantly down the road of the maturity of the Helo WTI career path and its relative primacy, whereas just a few years back that wasn't the case and Test backgrounds seemed to play more. My second CO back in 2014 was from a TPS background, but they seem less and less these days. The board is also discriminating every tour, so those 3 years of NOBs may hurt more than ever now.
It's becoming pretty clear that while a long-ticket #1 DH still opens the door for HSM/HSC command, FRS/WTI shore tour (w/ competetive FITREP) is now a hard requirement to push you through said door. Test/HT/VT need not apply...regardless of what else you do and how well you do there. On the other hand we're doing a pretty good job of setting people up for O-5, shouldn't be any problems filling those CVN Safety-O billets for a while.The peculiarities of the ACSB notwithstanding, I bet you have pretty good career SA on where you stand in your DH Tour and if that record is competitive for Command. Are you in the running for a long (>7-8 month) #1? Ideally your front office has signaled to you already roughly what your record will look like come O4 FITREP time, as it plays for post-DH orders.
This year helos (both HSC and HSM) took zero from a Test Background for OP Command. Also we're now significantly down the road of the maturity of the Helo WTI career path and its relative primacy, whereas just a few years back that wasn't the case and Test backgrounds seemed to play more. My second CO back in 2014 was from a TPS background, but they seem less and less these days. The board is also discriminating every tour, so those 3 years of NOBs may hurt more than ever now.
Don't forget that Test can get a bit "funny" because it opens other non-fleet doors such as Test Command and Acquisition opportunities.It's becoming pretty clear that while a long-ticket #1 DH still opens the door for HSM/HSC command, FRS/WTI shore tour (w/ competetive FITREP) is now a hard requirement to push you through said door. Test/HT/VT need not apply...regardless of what else you do and how well you do there. On the other hand we're doing a pretty good job of setting people up for O-5, shouldn't be any problems filling those CVN Safety-O billets for a while.
Totally right about that, I was talking strictly to OP. Hell, even OP-T, you think they'd like prior orange/white guys and gals to fill those TRAWING CO spots but you'd be wrong!Don't forget that Test can get a bit "funny" because it opens other non-fleet doors such as Test Command and Acquisition opportunities.
....Test/HT/VT need not apply...
Don't forget that Test can get a bit "funny" because it opens other non-fleet doors such as Test Command and Acquisition opportunities.
60 test might have less interest because there's not much new 60 work going on.This is basically in the PERS brief for Fleet JOs already - “Test is a second tier career path.” Coupled with declining JO interest in TPS, it’s starting to get some attention in the community, for whatever that’s worth.
Recent change to ACSB language regarding HX and several other test squadrons made them a bonus command. Wisdom of that aside - and even considering AEDOs - the population of officers qualified and interested has got to be pretty small.
I believe PERS-43 is fixing that part of the brief. Test is only second tier if it screws with your ability to have a competitive EP, and then only for ACSB. I would venture to guess a peer of mine who got a #1 LT EP at HX and worked as an aide before his DH tour will have a good shot at OP CMD.This is basically in the PERS brief for Fleet JOs already - “Test is a second tier career path.” Coupled with declining JO interest in TPS, it’s starting to get some attention in the community, for whatever that’s worth.
Unless the pendulum swings away from the results of the previous several ACSB's, respectfully, they probably don't. I hope it does.I believe PERS-43 is fixing that part of the brief. Test is only second tier if it screws with your ability to have a competitive EP, and then only for ACSB. I would venture to guess a peer of mine who got a #1 LT EP at HX and worked as an aide before his DH tour will have a good shot at OP CMD.
60 test might have less interest because there's not much new 60 work going on.
Not true. We’re slammed with Romeo projects and will take all the help we can get...
Right on. I haven't stayed very current on what's going on at 299. My buddy at VX-1 hasn't done much 60 work lately beyond a few smaller scale projects like DAIRCM (or whatever the 60 guys it)Not true. We’re slammed with Romeo projects and will take all the help we can get...