Chinese Aviation Developments

[ea6bflyr]

Never been, but I've heard it's great and hope to go someday.

I had relayed my story of the bomb pit at Tinian with family and friends. Of course, most know of the Enola Gay; but, I included, couldn't have named the 'Bockscar'.

After reading about Enola Gay and Bockscar, I found it interesting that there’s one guy that was on both missions. 1Lt Jacob Beser

 

[FLGUY]

Admiral Dong

Man I sure hope this guy isn’t a…dick.

 

[JTS11]

Man I sure hope this guy isn’t a…dick.

Who wins in a cage match...Admiral Dong or former Liberian warlord, General Butt Naked?



I would guess the Admiral's performance would be characterized as flaccid.

 

[robav8r]

After reading about Enola Gay and Bockscar, I found it interesting that there’s one guy that was on both missions. 1Lt Jacob Beser

Of course, he was a NFO, they needed some professional expertise and continuity on the missions not afforded by the single anchor types 🤣

“Beser was the radar specialist aboard the Enola Gay on August 6, 1945, when it dropped the Little Boy atomic bomb on Hiroshima.”

Any yes, I’m fully aware of the breast insignia for Army Air Corps officers during WW II.

 

[Flash]

He may be absolutely right on the canards…and as a general concept it’s probably not the best idea, but unless his comment is based on a lot of experience of actually trying to play around with that type of geometry and various materials I’d take it with a grain of salt. Because without actually being able to quantify the specific dB hit and at what aspects, it could be one of those things that could be totally correct but still irrelevant.

Don’t get me wrong..from a ship IAMD perspective I’d love for the thing to be a 747 on radar, but I wouldn’t bet on it.

He said that once they move and are no longer in line with the rest of the fuselage they'd 'light it up' on radars. He didn't imply it was going to be a huge return but that it would be really bad for LO. Based on his practical experience and the more in-depth explanation he gave me at the time about the design and its limitations I assume he is more right than wrong on this one.

 

[ABMD]

Who wins in a cage match...Admiral Dong or former Liberian warlord, General Butt Naked?

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I would guess the Admiral's performance would be characterized as flaccid.

Let's Go O's!!

That's an Orioles floppy hat...

 

[DanMa1156]

I think I've told this on here before, I went to Dayton and as we got closer to Bockscar I could hear a bunch of laughing and hooting like it was a frat party. I got into the line of sight of the crowd ready to do my best old man course correction of who ever was acting so disrespectful right next to this historical object when I observed that the crowd was made up of Japanese teenagers. Not Americans of Japanese decent but kids from Japan. Many ancestors were spun up to about 10,000 RPM in some Japanese graveyard.

I took a Japanese family (close family friends who came to visit us in the States) to Udvar Hazy to see Enola Gay at their request. It was fascinating to them and brought one of them nearly to tears. It's hard to imagine being in those shoes. It's a complex relationship.

 

[Flash]

I flew over the old Tinian airfield in the mid-2000's while doing MEU training in Guam. The whole complex was being reclaimed by the jungle, so it's probably way worse by now. We did find the bomb pit where Fat Man and Little Boy were loaded into the bellies of the B-29's. The pit was encased in a glass/plastic? shroud for protection. It was cool to see it from a 100' ft hover though, and take pictures.

They cleared it a bit at least once after you visited, same with North Field at Guam that they have kept somewhat clearer over the years.

 

[GroundPounder]

They cleared it a bit at least once after you visited, same with North Field at Guam that they have kept somewhat clearer over the years.

Do either you or @JTS11 have any pictures you could share? That would be an interesting site to see the current condition of.

 

[Flash]

Do either you or @JTS11 have any pictures you could share? That would be an interesting site to see the current condition of.

There is a great website about abandoned airfields that has plenty of info about Tinian and lots of other airfields. From the website.

An 8/27/08 aerial view looking west at North Field's 4 overgrown runways:

A 2013 aerial view shows the Tinian North Field runways have been considerably cleared compared to the 2008 photo:



Here is USAF one from 2015, "A U.S. Air Force C-130H Hercules flies over North Field, Tinian, Marianna Islands, during Cope North 15, Feb. 26, 2015."

At least C-130's can land there now, "A KC-130J Hercules aircraft lands on Tinian Island's North Field runway, May 30 [2012], during Exercise Geiger Fury 2012. The aircraft was the first to land on the runway since 1947."

That enough for ya?!

 

[Llarry]

Here are the clearest photos yet of the PRC's type 003 aircraft carrier CNS Fujian (CV-18). Conventionally-powered and about the size of the later USN CVs: perhaps 80,000-plus tons full-load displacement. Electromagnetic catapults. Their J-35 strike fighter is still in test, but speculation is that initially the air wing will include catapult-capable modified J-15 Flankers.

 

[Llarry]

Hot off the presses -- China appoints a naval officer as Defense Minister. Admiral Dong Jun was Commander of the PLA Navy and was named Defense Minister a couple of days ago. This is significant as it is the first time that a PLAN officer has filled the post. Dong's predecessor was apparently fired for corruption. Does this signal an increased emphasis in the PLA on maritime power?

The PLA traditionally emphasized ground forces. As Chinese military capabilities have grown, there has been a marked shift towards air and naval forces, reflecting an increased emphasis on power projection.

Admiral Dong was born in 1961 and graduated from a naval academy in 1979. His last billet was Commander of the PLA Navy.

And just to improve the environment for quips, Dong's relief as Commander of the PLA Navy is Admiral Hu. I hope that somewhere at the senior level is a flag officer named Wa.

 

[ea6bflyr]

And just to improve the environment for quips, Dong's relief as Commander of the PLA Navy is Admiral Hu. I hope that somewhere at the senior level is a flag officer named Wa.

Kind of reminds me of this one from a few years back:

 

[GroundPounder]

Kind of reminds me of this one from a few years back:

Here is the video

Apparently it was an intern that went down in internet history, on their last day at KTVU.

 

[Random8145]

Here is the news report, where they read the names. Apparently it was an intern that went down in internet history, on their last day at KTVU.

Your link just goes to page 1 of this thread. If I was the lady reading the names though, I'd have immediately caught on and stopped and said this must be a prank.

I think I've told this on here before, I went to Dayton and as we got closer to Bockscar I could hear a bunch of laughing and hooting like it was a frat party. I got into the line of sight of the crowd ready to do my best old man course correction of who ever was acting so disrespectful right next to this historical object when I observed that the crowd was made up of Japanese teenagers. Not Americans of Japanese decent but kids from Japan. Many ancestors were spun up to about 10,000 RPM in some Japanese graveyard.

Why were the Japanese teens hooting and laughing?