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Racism in the Military
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He bowls overhand.
Could you name which film studio executive who is now an elected Democrat making these changes? Or at least point me to what Democrat legislation is mandating them? Or maybe find on the DNC party website any official platform for post facto editing movies?
He said the left, not the DNC. Dumb post.
Concur with @Treetop Flyer - dumb post.
But if you want a different response, you only have to look at political donations by Hollywood and television (incl. news media). Follow the money.
These films are being edited as business decisions not a political one. To think of it as some sort of leftist conspiracy is at best silly and worst looking for a conspiracy in all things.
I thought all you guys were all about the free market? Shouldn't we just let businesses do what the want and not tell them what to do? Or does that only work when it's stuff we like?
Also, I mean, how often does anyone on here really watch Gone With the Wind? It's an ancient, long, and boring movie that before this I'm sure no one cared much about.
My South Park episode “Band in China” was meant to reply to this.
The long answer is no, the free market cannot totally be free. Why? Because un-free interests can use free market mechanisms to undermine freedoms in free societies.
Cases in point:
- FARA Act of 1938
- CFIUS
- OSHA safeguards/ handicap accessibility
- preventing businesses from discriminating against people based on race, sex, religion, etc
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Why is everyone gettin their parties in a wad? It isn’t being legislated. It is the free market at work. If congress passed a law banning Aunt Jemima-esque stuff, or passed a law saying Blazing Saddles had to be edited, I’d feel differently. But they didn’t. This is businesses making a business decision.
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I don’t agree with this sentiment because this is along the lines of “if you have nothing to hide, you shouldn’t care if the government is spying on you”
HBO isn’t pulling Gone With the Wind permanently, they’re adding an opening sequence, explaining that the film needs to be examined in the context of its time, then putting it back into circulation.
but of course the reactionaries get all freaked out about it without bothering to actually find out what’s happening.
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I was able to read more about late last night it is more interesting than I thought. One of the stories the family was in was talking about how the picture was a depiction of their great great aunt or something like that, maybe small adjustments were made to the pics as the people changed out?Well, Aunt Jemima was completely fictional, an invention of a bunch of white dudes to sell syrup. Yes, the actors that played her weren’t. With you on that.
The story of Aunt Jemima over the hundred years is pretty interesting, how the character evolved. Definitely should not be forgotten.
Nor should we forget her husband.
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It’s depressing that people are stupid enough to need that explanation. Of course they could just not watch but that’s not enough.
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perhaps, but that is an entirely different topic than "Cancel Culture"
No, it isn't legislation. Never said it was a legal or constitutional issue. Pointing out hypocrisy, cowardice, virtue signaling, disrespect for artistic product, and elitism to name a few. This notion that because something is legal or a private business affair it is neccessary we accept it without commentary is something I don't understand. If it were truly so, we would not have had pages of debate over police tactics and reform or virtually anything in the former Thunderdome or the editorial pages of the NYT.
More to a point I clumsily introduced, in the digital 21st century, when does private control of books and film/video on the internet (including streaming), become effective constitutional censorship? In the extreme, imagine Amazon and Netflix controlled 80 percent of the market, would their decisions on banning the sale of certain books or editing of certain films have a similar effect as the government banner the same book or unilaterlly modifying a video? What if 90% control? And if 100%, do they get a pass because they are public corporations, not the government? And if it were EVER possible that we might see those days, wouldn't now be the time to be critical of the nascent auctions we are witnessing?
More to a point I clumsily introduced, in the digital 21st century, when does private control of books and film/video on the internet (including streaming), become effective constitutional censorship? In the extreme, imagine Amazon and Netflix controlled 80 percent of the market, would their decisions on banning the sale of certain books or editing of certain films have a similar effect as the government banner the same book or unilaterlly modifying a video? What if 90% control? And if 100%, do they get a pass because they are public corporations, not the government? And if it were EVER possible that we might see those days, wouldn't now be the time to be critical of the nascent auctions we are witnessing?
In related news, Allison Brie is the latest celeb apologizing for a voice role she did in the past: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/alison-brie-apologizes-voicing-vietnamese-211821644.html
Never watched the Bojack Horsemen series. I looked this series up and expected to hear Angela Johnson's nail salon lady, but it was just Brie doing her normal voice, which sounded like most second-generation or later Asian American women I know. It seems what Brie thinks was regrettable was that she wasn't the same ethnicity as the character: "I now understand that people of color should always voice people of color."
Granted, Brie is entitled to her opinion, but there seems to be a growing sentiment that white people portraying brown roles is unacceptable, and yet it's increasingly acceptable for a growing number of brown actors to take on traditional white roles (e.g., Heimdall in Avengers), including historic figures that were white (see for example, various characters in Hamilton and Mary Queen of Scots). I'm not in favor of anyone putting on makeup to make them look like another ethnicity, especially when the end result is a gross caricature, but there doesn't seem a great deal of difference in adapting the race of a character. If we're gonna call one instance an artistic adaptation, then that standard should be applied across the board, otherwise it should be spurned across the board.
Never watched the Bojack Horsemen series. I looked this series up and expected to hear Angela Johnson's nail salon lady, but it was just Brie doing her normal voice, which sounded like most second-generation or later Asian American women I know. It seems what Brie thinks was regrettable was that she wasn't the same ethnicity as the character: "I now understand that people of color should always voice people of color."
Granted, Brie is entitled to her opinion, but there seems to be a growing sentiment that white people portraying brown roles is unacceptable, and yet it's increasingly acceptable for a growing number of brown actors to take on traditional white roles (e.g., Heimdall in Avengers), including historic figures that were white (see for example, various characters in Hamilton and Mary Queen of Scots). I'm not in favor of anyone putting on makeup to make them look like another ethnicity, especially when the end result is a gross caricature, but there doesn't seem a great deal of difference in adapting the race of a character. If we're gonna call one instance an artistic adaptation, then that standard should be applied across the board, otherwise it should be spurned across the board.