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Dark brown flight boots? When did that happen?

Dhoop29

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I have personal experience of exactly that. Some of the AMMTs have a big hard on for Red Wings.
I was guest flying with a squadron who was in AMI while I was with SFWSL a year or so ago. The AMI fact obviously never made it to the school house so I paraded on in with my Red Wings, and the inspectors took one look at my glorious attire scribbled something on their little pad and proceeded to try and chew out the PR1 that was in the paraloft. I went over to the squadron skipper to let him know what was happening then walked on my flight.
 

MIDNJAC

is clara ship
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I was guest flying with a squadron who was in AMI while I was with SFWSL a year or so ago. The AMI fact obviously never made it to the school house so I paraded on in with my Red Wings, and the inspectors took one look at my glorious attire scribbled something on their little pad and proceeded to try and chew out the PR1 that was in the paraloft. I went over to the squadron skipper to let him know what was happening then walked on my flight.

Please tell me that you at least made one useless 4I that will never be allowed to use the qual in this process? :)
 

Gatordev

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I was guest flying with a squadron who was in AMI while I was with SFWSL a year or so ago. The AMI fact obviously never made it to the school house so I paraded on in with my Red Wings, and the inspectors took one look at my glorious attire scribbled something on their little pad and proceeded to try and chew out the PR1 that was in the paraloft. I went over to the squadron skipper to let him know what was happening then walked on my flight.

This demonstrates the complete failure in Naval Aviation. Obviously the Weapon Schools need to be put in the AMI rotation.

That kind of reminds me of when I was going through an AMI as the MO. As the only full-time flyer downstairs, I was also the ALSO and Laser Program manager, and due to the age and mods of our aircraft at the time, it was mostly just an admin function. I intentionally kept the binder in my office so the inspector had to come to me and not harass my program helper.

Sure enough, the inspector tried to "just grab the binder" so he could give my AT or AO (I forget which) the business in another room, but I told him I was program manager and he should talk to me. When he started in with the "you don't seem to have any firing logs or training..." I stopped him and explained that none of our aircraft were physically capable of firing our lasers and that we were waiting for our new IZLIDs to come in so we had no way to shoot the guns with lasers (a mild lie, but whatever).

When he wanted to push the issue about how we had FLIR turrets with LASERS!!!, I then showed him the checklist and explained how there are four interlocks for the lasers and our aircraft didn't have 2 of them. It was impossible to get past step 3 of the checklist to even try and use a laser. Finally he admitted defeat and said "it looks good sir," and moved on.
 

Dhoop29

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This demonstrates the complete failure in Naval Aviation. Obviously the Weapon Schools need to be put in the AMI rotation.

That kind of reminds me of when I was going through an AMI as the MO. As the only full-time flyer downstairs, I was also the ALSO and Laser Program manager, and due to the age and mods of our aircraft at the time, it was mostly just an admin function. I intentionally kept the binder in my office so the inspector had to come to me and not harass my program helper.

Sure enough, the inspector tried to "just grab the binder" so he could give my AT or AO (I forget which) the business in another room, but I told him I was program manager and he should talk to me. When he started in with the "you don't seem to have any firing logs or training..." I stopped him and explained that none of our aircraft were physically capable of firing our lasers and that we were waiting for our new IZLIDs to come in so we had no way to shoot the guns with lasers (a mild lie, but whatever).

When he wanted to push the issue about how we had FLIR turrets with LASERS!!!, I then showed him the checklist and explained how there are four interlocks for the lasers and our aircraft didn't have 2 of them. It was impossible to get past step 3 of the checklist to even try and use a laser. Finally he admitted defeat and said "it looks good sir," and moved on.
This was my JO squadron and I was still familiar with everyone in the squadron, I followed up with the MO and the skipper and they ended up giving the inspector a pretty intense dressing down and post inspection, which they passed by the way, they gave the PR1 a shout-out for dealing with a less than cordial person.
 

ChuckMK23

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Speaking of footwear, does the recently adopted Army uniform use same Navy brown low-quarters? (Taken from public DOD social media)
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Flash

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Speaking of footwear, does the recently adopted Army uniform use same Navy brown low-quarters? (Taken from public DOD social media)
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More and more Army folks are wearing this at work, I like it a lot and most are junior enough not to have that obscene amount of flair yet. One thing that is really ugly though is that the shirt and pants are two shades of tan/light brown and they don't look good at all without the jacket.
 
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