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What NRC considers competitive

AULANI

Well-Known Member
Hello all. I'm trying to apply for SNA- May 2020 board. It's s probably too early to see if I'm competitive for that particular board, but I want to see if I'm competitive in general. Here's my info:

Age: 21
Major: Human Factors and Aviation Safety
GPA: 3.8
ASTB: 52 6/7/7
Private Pilot Certificate
Prior Service: No
LORs from two professors who were Naval Aviators (USN O-6, USN O-5). Mentor and Family friend who was a USMC pilot (O-5), and my soccer coach.
No waivers.
From what I've seen previously, you have a good chance of being selected.
 

AULANI

Well-Known Member
The IWC Board for December 2 thread is pretty sparse -- I wanted to check in to see where I stand for selection as an intelligence officer.

Selection Rankings: 1) Intelligence; 2) NFO; 3) SWO
ASTB: 61 8/6/8
GPA: 3.95 @ Harvard - B.A. in History and International Relations (Government)
Age: 21
Sex: Male
LoRs: Fmr. Governor, Fmr. SECDEF; two professors; Fmr. presidential advisor for national security affairs
Work Experience:
--Strategy Consultant for fighter program
--DoD in US Africa Command analyzing foreign investments
--DC think tank specializing in national security
--DC strategic advisory firm focusing on defense clients

Any help and advice about chances and ways to improve would be greatly appreciated.
Nice GPA and LORs (although I don't know how much they care). A lot of people in Intel have a Master's but it not might matter in your case.

Great ASTB, why aren't you going SNA? Good luck!
 

AULANI

Well-Known Member
Hello, had a question about applying for Supply. If I'm enlisted and my rate doesn't relate to supply (Intel nerd rate), would that affect my chances of being selected? Also, would an O-3 interview be weak, or those don't hold as much weight as GPA/Major/OAR?


Choices: #1 Supply/#2 Crypto
CTI2/3.5 Yrs. TIS
Evals: P (A-School), MP, EP
Age: 21
Major: B.S. Economics (Some Programming, Engineering, Calc I+II), Business Minor
GPA: 3.71
OAR: 70
Interviews: Supply O-3/Crypto O-5/Crypto O-4


Thanks in advance, sorry for another annoying stats post.
Nice OAR and GPA, I'd be surprised if you didn't get picked up for either of those designators. Why no SNA/NFO? Good luck!
 

AboutThat...

New Member
Hello all, looking at Intel. Currently working in cyber security (I have a pretty diverse work background), did well in school and have Russian language fluency (not that important for Officers, I know). I won't get into it, but I know my SF86 is going to be one hell of a process due to extensive foreign travel and residency abroad. Anyway.

Choices: Intel
Age: 29
Major: History and Political Science, Minor in Russian Language - 3.9 GPA
M.A.: Post-Soviet Area Studies, ~3.9 GPA
ASTB: 55 6/5/6

ASTB is not that great, I went in cold. I will probably try and do some actual studying the second time around. No prior service. Planning on submitting to the March board for Intel only, will try for NFO or perhaps SWO if I don't get picked up.

Thanks in advance.
 
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NavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
Hello all, looking at Intel. Currently working in cyber security (I have a pretty diverse work background), did well in school and have Russian language fluency (not that important for Officers, I know). I won't get into it, but I know my SF86 is going to be one hell of a process due to extensive foreign travel and residency abroad. Anyway.

Choices: Intel
Age: 29
Major: History and Political Science, Minor in Russian Language - 3.9 GPA
M.A.: Post-Soviet Area Studies, ~3.9 GPA
ASTB: 55 6/5/6

ASTB is not that great, I went in cold. I will probably try and do some actual studying the second time around. No prior service. Planning on submitting to the March board for Intel only, will try for NFO or perhaps SWO if I don't get picked up.

Thanks in advance.
If you aren't going to apply for NFO this time around wait to take the ASTB.
 

AboutThat...

New Member
If you aren't going to apply for NFO this time around wait to take the ASTB.
Will do. My recruiter has told me that with my GPA, background and current OAR score I am "competitive" for Intel and he does't want me to take it again. However, from what I've read around here / Reddit people get picked up for Intel with all kinds of scores, backgrounds and GPAs. Who knows.
 

Geopolitician

New Member
I am planning to apply for OCS/OTS route for Intel in the Reserves, and whit it I have questions about my qualifications if it looks ok.

As per requirements from NCS https://www.navycs.com/officer/intelligenceofficer.html

Age: 28 years old, married, father of one.
Security Clearance Eligibility: I am in credit card debt while building my business, around 25k. Applying for student loan of around 31k for my masters. How big of obstacle is this?

How important is family history for clearance? I have quite complicated family history from Poland with resistance fighters and politicians against the Nazis and Soviets and deceased father which joined the communist party. My waives father is a retired Venezuelan colonel with step son on Interpol list.

How important is the professional network I have? I know a lot of Polish diplomats and politicians, and one retired general.

Citizenship: US born. I also have Polish citizenship, ready to resign if need it (although I saw that there are waivers)
Education:
Polish 4+ grade which is like B+ (GPA 3.3)
BA in International Economic Relations with specialization in International Business from Polish university, with exchange programs in Netherlands and South Korea (could this be an issue for the board as the university is accredited in Poland? it has agreements with US universities, which I think can qualify the degree in the end).

I will start masters in logistics and supply chain management from January and finish December 2020. Certifications from FIU and Georgetown University on International Business and Public Policy
Foreign language skill: Fluent in Polish, beginner in Spanish, broken Korean. I have learned a bit of hiragana and katana (Japanese alphabet for foreigners) but I forgot it already.
Officer Aptitude Rating (OAR): my recruiter just told me that I don't need OAR for reserves. Can someone confirm?
Leadership and Work Experience
Self-employed at international business and public policy consulting firm, specializing in market entry strategies, business and market analysis, geopolitics, marketing and sales.
Corporate experience as business development manager for North America, IT corporation.
Real Estate associate.
President at Polish-Floridan business group for economic development between the two. For example we are working on economic corridor concept between Poland and Florida to create new strategic flow between the two due to geopolitical developments like Mexico-Florida port cooperation, one of the Belt and Road Initiative entry points to Europe is through Poland etc.
Former president of Polish young professionals network in Florida.

Active in Polish American community, recognized by many as a community leader, organizing trade missions between Poland and Florida, Polish American heritage events, humanitarian aid projects like support for Haiti after hurricane Matthew where with Polish American parishes we collected 60 boxes of food, medicine and baby necessities.

Also, I am very active with Florida, Miami and Broward county economic development teams, and recognize by Broward county as county liaison to Poland. Additionally, I have broad network in Polish American leadership, as well as diplomatic personnel from the Polish embassy (like the Ambassador) and in Polish government (like Speaker of the Polish Senate). I am also involved in Republican Party structures in Florida.

Lived in Poland, Netherlands, South Korea, one month in Brazzaville, Republic of Congo and obviously in the US. Overall traveled to 55 countries in 5 continents.

Regional expertise:
US military is increasing its presence in Poland and Romania, as the CEE region is the choke point/entrance to the European Peninsula and the Eurasian landmasses. China and Russia are actively present in the region in the asymmetric warfare (cyber attracts and disinformation, green people in Crimea etc), and NATO alliance is analyzing how to defend the Baltic states with article 5. The increased presence requires more intel for the region and understanding of regional relations shaped by history and culture. In this picture Poland would be probably the main land army responsible on defending the Eastern flank of NATO, until the heavy cavalry will arrive, and it will require Intel personnel who can be useful in this scenario to communicate with Polish counterparts.

Understanding South Korea and Japanese geopolitics.

LoR
From whom LoR would be the most important? People with military experience, professionals and businessman's with clearance, professors, political leaders, priest, economic development agencies?
Thank you.
 

RecruitingGuru

Making Recruiting Great Again
Reserve selection boards are like applying for a civilian job. They require some sort of work experience (whether that's military and/or civilian). Read the Reserve Intel Program Authorization (it's easy to find with a google search), go through the requirements and think to yourself, "do I meet and/or exceed what is required?".

You lack any sort of Intel experience and while I get you're "familiar" with world politics, that's not really what Intel is all about...
 

Geopolitician

New Member
RestructuringGuru thanks for the comment. I appreciate direct and honest comments :)

I found this one before
https://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/officer/communitymanagers/Documents/PA-208A_INTEL_Reserve_May-2019.pdf

From the education requirements I have all what I need. BA in international economic relations with regional focus on Central and Eastern Europe with the knowledge of Polish language.

Now I don't have the military intelligence background for sure (some nuclear policy understanding, and than the business side of history/geography/philosophy/culture/economics). I wondered if my business and public policy background could make it up for that. In the end I would like to talk with someone to see where those experiences fit best, but didn't really have luck with the right people.

One person I know who was Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Europe and NATO Policy said that I fit very well into the intel for the sole purpose of knowing the region of CEE in economics, innovation, infrastructure, cultural and historical background. That's actually the person who motivated me to do it...

Thanks to your comment I actually found finally something useful:

https://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/officer/communitymanagers/reserve/selres/Documents/1835_Community_Info_Sheet_Oct_2019.pdf


Combatant Command Staff: Support exercises, develop plans, manage programs, perform operational intelligence and produce supporting documents.
Operational Intelligence: Deliver near real-time intelligence assessments to decision makers and commanders.
Those two fields would be the one I see my self fitting.
 

NavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
RestructuringGuru thanks for the comment. I appreciate direct and honest comments :)

I found this one before
https://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/officer/communitymanagers/Documents/PA-208A_INTEL_Reserve_May-2019.pdf

From the education requirements I have all what I need. BA in international economic relations with regional focus on Central and Eastern Europe with the knowledge of Polish language.

Now I don't have the military intelligence background for sure (some nuclear policy understanding, and than the business side of history/geography/philosophy/culture/economics). I wondered if my business and public policy background could make it up for that. In the end I would like to talk with someone to see where those experiences fit best, but didn't really have luck with the right people.

One person I know who was Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Europe and NATO Policy said that I fit very well into the intel for the sole purpose of knowing the region of CEE in economics, innovation, infrastructure, cultural and historical background. That's actually the person who motivated me to do it...

Thanks to your comment I actually found finally something useful:
https://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/officer/communitymanagers/reserve/selres/Documents/1835_Community_Info_Sheet_Oct_2019.pdf

Combatant Command Staff: Support exercises, develop plans, manage programs, perform operational intelligence and produce supporting documents.
Operational Intelligence: Deliver near real-time intelligence assessments to decision makers and commanders.
Those two fields would be the one I see my self fitting.
There is what the minimum requirements are (which is the PA and info sheet) then there is who actually gets selected the experience in the field is often key to getting selected, in addition a Master's is also pretty key to getting selected. The panel interview will be another big step, if they don't give you 10's that will hurt bad, depending on who is doing your panel interview they may have a set policy where unless you have X you will not get a 10 score.

I know it can be frustrating when you read the PA and info sheet then to find out just that isn't enough, before I earned my PHR I applied for a job that I easily met the requirements for, however in talking to the recruiter he was instructed that anyone without a PHR would be automatically rejected.
 
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