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War in Israel
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The army helo guys do OK. Here is the list of awards earned (with participation medals removed) by the 2P who recently died in the 160th ARF exercise; Distinguished Flying Cross with Valor device, the Air Medal with Combat device, the Army Commendation Medal, the Army Achievement Medal, and the Combat Action Badge.
"Helo Bubbas" ≠ 160th . . .
You are clearly unfamiliar with our thorough SOF support syllabus. I recommend a thread jack to educate you on how high speed we are.
I guess you’re not including the Seawolves in the discussion? https://seawolf.org/medals-awarded-to-hal-3-personnel/
Plenty of notable awards during Vietnam/SEA - I was more referring to post Vietnam/SEA.
Gotcha, you said generations, so it seemed like that would encompass that time frame.
Have there been actions worthy of awards since then that have been overlooked because the folks involved were helo pilots? I’ve always just thought it was a lack of opportunity/change in mission sets/mission focus, not a deliberate effort to deprive deserving aircrew.
With a few exceptions, seems to have been the case with Navy helos since the end of Vietnam.
TBH, the Air Medal is just a formulaic calculation (reported and calculated somewhat differently among different commands) of hours and sorties in a designated combat zone. Individual mission Air Medals are subject to the whims of the chain of command, like any other valor award.
With that being said, in the Marine Corps, if you saw a 04-05 guy/gal with wings in a dress uniform without an Air Medal, it would make you ask questions. Similar to if they had no stars on their Sea Service Deployment ribbon. (I'm talking about the OIF/OEF timeframe)
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Random8145
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Pardon my ignorance on this, so does the phrase "Helo Bubbas" refer specifically to Navy helicopter pilots?
The way threads drift on AW, I’m surprised we don’t get them confused more often. I can’t count the number of times I click on a thread title, only to realize “oh yeah, this is THAT thread…”, roll my eyes, and hit the “back” button.
Maybe it’s just me.
The other thing I often miss the forest for the trees, is when there's a thread title I have zero interest in, keeps popping up in What's New, and then you finally click on it, and realize there's been some epic threadjack that is entertaining or informative.
I still won't click on IWC/Sub/ICC 23 Board threads (I'm making those acronyms up...I think ?)
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