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VT-10 Instructor NFO's
- Thread starter robav8r
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It's not a lie. The truth will just change between now and then.
HAL - ignore YOU? Blasphemy
And yes, I lost out to the "other" guy for the VT-10 orders. But hey, things happen for a reason, right . . . . . . 
So, not to start another thread, and this one is close enough, what is the flow of the IUT syllabus for T-6 pilot instructors like?
Also heard this is a career killer for pilots. Can anyone who has done it from the single anchor side expand on their experiences?
That is pretty community specific. Some communities value VT orders, some do not. You will be competing with a decent sized summary group of LTs, so depending on your community, it may be a great set of orders.
Do you mean IP at an NFO primary or VT's in Milton (my next set of orders)? Can't speak to the former, but the latter is not. The latter is also the best orders my non-instructing ass could wrangle (thank you XO if you are reading this)
Pickle
Yes I was referring to being an IP at an NFO primary. Definitely not at the top of my list but I would enjoy Pensacola again and I enjoyed flying the T-6A at Vance.
Uhhhh... odds are that throughout your career it's easier to move from gray aircraft to orange than it is from orange back to gray as career milestones like DH and command screen come along. I think this is one of those things where the exceptions prove the rule. Fair or not, there are a couple good threads, in the private forums, that go into finer "detail." 
@Pickle- if you're talking the pilot Primary T-6 IUT syllabus, then it's about 50 flight hours, 25 simulator hours (the sims are very modern and quite good as far as sims go), and associated ground school (classes, courseware, tests). Time-to-train should be about 16 weeks according to the pub but it's 5-ish months in reality (delays due to extraordinarily bad weather lately, aircraft availability/general growing pains for maintenance, and the tail end of the IUT backlog from the T-34 to T-6 transition). It is built around different stages that are a lot like what you might remember from Primary (ie. contact, instruments) but the IUT syllabus is more flexible than the student syllabus (too flexible a student syllabus would lead to helmet wildfires). As long as guys study and show up prepared then the atmosphere is fairly gentlemanly. And yes, a few of the aircraft really do have that new car smell.
@Pickle- if you're talking the pilot Primary T-6 IUT syllabus, then it's about 50 flight hours, 25 simulator hours (the sims are very modern and quite good as far as sims go), and associated ground school (classes, courseware, tests). Time-to-train should be about 16 weeks according to the pub but it's 5-ish months in reality (delays due to extraordinarily bad weather lately, aircraft availability/general growing pains for maintenance, and the tail end of the IUT backlog from the T-34 to T-6 transition). It is built around different stages that are a lot like what you might remember from Primary (ie. contact, instruments) but the IUT syllabus is more flexible than the student syllabus (too flexible a student syllabus would lead to helmet wildfires). As long as guys study and show up prepared then the atmosphere is fairly gentlemanly. And yes, a few of the aircraft really do have that new car smell.
On my side of the hallway they are sending almost all of us to the Milton VTs. In fact, every one of us but the evaluator. There's enough of you guys (former VT O-4s) around as DHs to make me think it's not as much of a career killer as I had always been told. I've got verbals to 6.
At least one has that Hinge IUT vomit smell, too.
(Whose vomit, you ask? We'll never know...after all, you can't dust for vomit.)
As usual, timing is everything. There were guys that made O-4/DH that were at the VTs when I was, but fast-forward to this last year, and things weren't as rosy (at least on the helo side). It all depends on what your end goal is and how much of a (perceived) gamble you want to take. Personally, I think it's worth it, but I find Kool-Aid a little sweet for my taste, so your mileage may vary.
If nothing liquid or solid passed through the plane of the pie hole, then there is no physical evidence and it was just a case of really bad breath...
Thanks Jim, exactly what I wanted to know.Uhhhh... odds are that throughout your career it's easier to move from gray aircraft to orange than it is from orange back to gray as career milestones like DH and command screen come along. I think this is one of those things where the exceptions prove the rule. Fair or not, there are a couple good threads, in the private forums, that go into finer "detail."
@Pickle- if you're talking the pilot Primary T-6 IUT syllabus, then it's about 50 flight hours, 25 simulator hours (the sims are very modern and quite good as far as sims go), and associated ground school (classes, courseware, tests). Time-to-train should be about 16 weeks according to the pub but it's 5-ish months in reality (delays due to extraordinarily bad weather lately, aircraft availability/general growing pains for maintenance, and the tail end of the IUT backlog from the T-34 to T-6 transition). It is built around different stages that are a lot like what you might remember from Primary (ie. contact, instruments) but the IUT syllabus is more flexible than the student syllabus (too flexible a student syllabus would lead to helmet wildfires). As long as guys study and show up prepared then the atmosphere is fairly gentlemanly. And yes, a few of the aircraft really do have that new car smell.
Pickle
If nothing liquid or solid passed through the plane of the pie hole, then there is no physical evidence and it was just a case of really bad breath...
I wish the same could be said for our seat cushions.