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VR Simulators at Whiting

squorch2

he will die without safety brief
pilot
Primary Avenger (speeding stud flow through instruction modernization) is nice, low-hanging fruit, but doesn't seem to address the larger systemic issues in TACAIR stud flow rate (a/c avail, syllabus structure, wx cx, etc)

am I missing something?
 

colonial-aviation

Intermediate Jet
What's the syllabus for avenger? Tried searching for it but couldn't find it anywhere
Ever changing, divined by our OIC and OPSO on a daily basis. We still do instruments, contacts, and forms as separate blocks, but most of the material is introduced early so we can take off IFR, get VFR on top and do a normal contacts profile, then come back and shoot an approach, for example.
 

johnboyA6E

Well-Known Member
None
i may have missed in earlier in the thread, but what is "Avenger"?

Is it a VR T-6 that you use for this syllabus? what kind of VR gear do they use? ie. which headset, which sim software?
 

jointhelocalizer

Active Member
Dumb questions, but how does one get into the Avenger syllabus? Are they running the program at both wings? Does it stipulate anything like follow-on pipeline or is it simply just another version of Primary?
 

colonial-aviation

Intermediate Jet
i may have missed in earlier in the thread, but what is "Avenger"?

Is it a VR T-6 that you use for this syllabus? what kind of VR gear do they use? ie. which headset, which sim software?
We use Prepare3D and these VR “sleds” built by Booz Allen Hamilton with off the shelf gaming PCs and warthog sticks and throttles.
Dumb questions, but how does one get into the Avenger syllabus? Are they running the program at both wings? Does it stipulate anything like follow-on pipeline or is it simply just another version of Primary?
It was random. Checked into TW-4 after two weeks of ROM, got an email saying “you’re in Avenger” and here I am. It’s just another version of primary; there’s no guarantee of platform or anything. They still haven’t really decided how to select us since we won’t have a normal NSS
 

RandomGoat1248

Well-Known Member
Primary Avenger (speeding stud flow through instruction modernization) is nice, low-hanging fruit, but doesn't seem to address the larger systemic issues in TACAIR stud flow rate (a/c avail, syllabus structure, wx cx, etc)

am I missing something?
Well similar stuff is coming down the pipe for VT-Js to try to speed up the syllabus flow.

This is all adjacent to not sending SNAs to the boat anymore and adjusting what training is done in the VTs and what is done in the FRS.
 

Dontcallmegump

Well-Known Member
pilot
We use Prepare3D and these VR “sleds” built by Booz Allen Hamilton with off the shelf gaming PCs and warthog sticks and throttles.

It was random. Checked into TW-4 after two weeks of ROM, got an email saying “you’re in Avenger” and here I am. It’s just another version of primary; there’s no guarantee of platform or anything. They still haven’t really decided how to select us since we won’t have a normal NSS
Wait, is all the avenger set up events just a sub for some of the flights and UTD/OFT events or is that designed to be a majority of the primary experience?

Leave it to the navy to hold a time bomb like selections to figure out how to weigh the NSS until the studs are partway through. I bet you'll see a representative break up to different pipelines of intermediate and advanced so they can keep an eye on how the avenger prepares you for what comes next. Isn't that the whole point of primary?
 

colonial-aviation

Intermediate Jet
Wait, is all the avenger set up events just a sub for some of the flights and UTD/OFT events or is that designed to be a majority of the primary experience?

Leave it to the navy to hold a time bomb like selections to figure out how to weigh the NSS until the studs are partway through. I bet you'll see a representative break up to different pipelines of intermediate and advanced so they can keep an eye on how the avenger prepares you for what comes next. Isn't that the whole point of primary?
They may split us that way. I try not to think about it too much.
And the program still has the same number of flight hours and OFT/UTD events, the big change is some syllabus flow plus the VRs as essentially instructor profsits.
My understanding is that the Avenger style will rollout to all of primary eventually, but until then there’ll be incremental changes.
 

FLGUY

“Technique only”
pilot
Contributor
This is all adjacent to not sending SNAs to the boat anymore and adjusting what training is done in the VTs and what is done in the FRS.
I heard that was a rumor for a long time, but what’s the status on the VTJs and CQ? Are jets studs just skipping VT CQ? And do E2 SNAs even go to the T-45 anymore?
 

RandomGoat1248

Well-Known Member
I heard that was a rumor for a long time, but what’s the status on the VTJs and CQ? Are jets studs just skipping VT CQ? And do E2 SNAs even go to the T-45 anymore?

Right now all Navy SNAs are CQing, Marines are not.

Current rumor is that Navy strike SNAs will stop CQing at some point and E2/C2 will continue to CQ for the time being.
 

Dontcallmegump

Well-Known Member
pilot
They may split us that way. I try not to think about it too much.
And the program still has the same number of flight hours and OFT/UTD events, the big change is some syllabus flow plus the VRs as essentially instructor profsits.
My understanding is that the Avenger style will rollout to all of primary eventually, but until then there’ll be incremental changes.
So all the VR stuff is completely additional, hmmm.

As for selections, do your best and it is what it is. Refer to any number of my pervious posts for excessive analysis and unsolicited advice.

Good luck.
 

hdr777

Well-Known Member
I heard that was a rumor for a long time, but what’s the status on the VTJs and CQ? Are jets studs just skipping VT CQ? And do E2 SNAs even go to the T-45 anymore?
Still go, do IJET, plus night form and CQ. Took out DIV, some cruise form, and a couple less instrument flights
 
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