Assuming the helo crew has some level of training, it is a fun day for us. Not as one sided as you would think, and a fun way to send the pointy nose guys home with g-measels and no kill.
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USAF cuts powerlines with an A-10
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Obviously depends on the radar/missile type and whether the ding-dong in the fighter thinks a gun kill is a good idea.
Let me guess, "you'll put on the brakes and he'll fly right by."
<---- starts countdown to first blue on blue Cobra shootdown with an AIM-9 in training.
What he described is pretty much the same way we do AIM-9 shoots, except the part about the low score.
Given how long (or short real) a burning flare is actually a good decoy compared to an aircraft... That's terrifying
It's not the same flares that go into expendable buckets. It's a battlefield illumination flare.
Late breaking news, as P-8s arrive to replace the P-3s, the retiring WarPigs will be upgraded to become 'low-speed' Patrol Fighter Attack (P/F/A-3 1/2), to fill the shoes of the cancelled F-35 which could only bolter instead of full-stop landing aboard ship. The upgraded aircraft will carry 16 AIM-9s/24 MK-82s, and be known as the P/F/A-3 1/2 "Orionet"!
Sleep tight Boy'San, your dreams are safe...Please don't sink my dreams...
BzB
Pre-merge it was not fun.
Post-merge (with the helo turn rate) it was a lot of fun.
And then he dropped a bomb on me.....
Late breaking news, as P-8s arrive to replace the P-3s, the retiring WarPigs will be upgraded to become 'low-speed' Patrol Fighter Attack (P/F/A-3 1/2), to fill the shoes of the cancelled F-35 which could only bolter instead of full-stop landing aboard ship. The upgraded aircraft will carry 16 AIM-9s/24 MK-82s, and be known as the P/F/A-3 1/2 "Orionet"!
I read a book about that concept once.
The reason they added that capability is the Nimrods patrolling ahead of the UK task force on it's way down to the Falklands encountered Argentine 707s that were acting as MPAs several times. They wanted to be able to shoot them down if they encountered them once the shooting started so they added the ability to carry Sidewinders but didn't encounter them again after the mod.
The 'crash mod' aerial refueling kit unfortunately may have eventually contributed to the early retirement of the Nimrod fleet. One was lost over Afghanistan due to a fuel leak that probably happened after an aerial refueling. The setup was a bit primitive and apparently they didn't improve on it much after the initial mod, coupled with other mods over the years hadn't been fully tested the end result was unfortunate.
In all seriousness, I always thought that the P-3 would've been great in the Harvest Hawk role. I know it would've required digital stores and a couple other upgrades, but I think it would've been worth it in the end.
I won't say that this method is wrong, or dangerous (because it probably isn't), but it is wildly different than the WSEP shoot where I honked off a Sparrow (and fellow JOPA hosed rammers and AIM-9's at).
Radius is where the advantage is at.