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UPT AND API Question

FLGUY

Wings....now what?
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When I went through, we were in the first few TH from primary classes. The way it seemed to work was everyone did intermediate, then grades fell as they would, and a few people got selected to go E2/C2. Specifically, if you got to go to the ONAV brief (the first event of advanced) you officially weren't going E2/C2. If you didn't, and you probably already knew, you were going VFR direct to FCLPs and then the boat......and then T-44's. More to the point, the trip to the boat happened after intermediate in either case......very quickly if ID'd for props, and towards the end of advanced if going jets/strike.
Amongst the talk of the differences in the two ways of doing the tail hook pipeline, one major thing I heard an IP mention was that “it’s better to have Tailhook IPs determine who’s better suited for the different tailhook communities than Primary IPs. Like ‘Oh, this guy crushed FCLPs but was meh in forms, let’s send him E2s”

I was always curious to see what those in the fleet thought about that idea. If it was mostly true, or just snark between communities.
 

insanebikerboy

Internet killed the television star
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Amongst the talk of the differences in the two ways of doing the tail hook pipeline, one major thing I heard an IP mention was that “it’s better to have Tailhook IPs determine who’s better suited for the different tailhook communities than Primary IPs. Like ‘Oh, this guy crushed FCLPs but was meh in forms, let’s send him E2s”

I was always curious to see what those in the fleet thought about that idea. If it was mostly true, or just snark between communities.
Isnt the final decision up to the Bob’s anyways? I mean, a stud gets awesome grades and would be a good fit in jets, but when stuff like quality spread, timing, etc, comes into play, how much say does the IP really have? (yes I know they make recommendations for or against a stud and a particular pipeline)
 

Gatordev

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I'll give you that... and as an IP it could be kinda distracting, not necessarily in a good way or a bad way, just that whenever I noticed one of the neighbors unraveling, the inner voice in my head would say something like, "Don't say anything inappropriate, don't say anything inappropriate, don't say any, what was I talking about again? Crap." as I lost my train of thought with my own student.
Ditto. It also took me my first set of on-wings to actually listen to the NATOPS brief before I learned how not to zone out (or listen to other drama in the next cubicle). Interestingly, it took me a bit of time again as an FRS IP. I think it was because of just coming from the fleet in both cases.
 

FLGUY

Wings....now what?
pilot
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Isnt the final decision up to the Bob’s anyways? I mean, a stud gets awesome grades and would be a good fit in jets, but when stuff like quality spread, timing, etc, comes into play, how much say does the IP really have? (yes I know they make recommendations for or against a stud and a particular pipeline)
I think that line of thinking is focused around the grades that IPs give students, that (arguably) plays the biggest part in selection. As in, Primary NSS determining the E2/C2 - Jet split rather than Intermediate Jet NSS.
 

insanebikerboy

Internet killed the television star
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I think that line of thinking is focused around the grades that IPs give students, that (arguably) plays the biggest part in selection. As in, Primary NSS determining the E2/C2 - Jet split rather than Intermediate Jet NSS.
Ah, that makes sense.
 

Hopeful Hoya

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For the Strike syllabus, yes it's still called Intermediate and Advanced.

For what it's worth, they just changed the Strike syllabus to mirror the E2C2 one in that you can now go Midstage FCLPs -> Night Form -> CQ.
 
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