U.S. Draft back in 2005?

[buck_ttu06]

I am sure that everyone has heard about the growing speculations that with our deployment throughout the world and the growing conflicts in Iraq are stretching our military thin. Bush and others have repetively stated that we will remain in Iraq for years to come (and I personally agree that it is necessary). With recruitment numbers not exactly going up, and the number of soldiers K.I.A. just over 700 now, 100 in the last month alone, not to mention all of those wounded... how does the U.S. fight a long and successful war against terrorism? If you would like a site will ALL of the info about the probablity of the draft returning check out this site...

http://b11.ezboard.com/fpoliticalpalacefrm21.showMessage?topicID=217.topic

I believe that if it is necessary to keep our country safe from terrorism, that the draft would be the smart move. Each of us would define keeping our country safe differently, I am sure. My 2 cents is that if my country was in need and called on me... you better believe that I would show up and do my part. What views do all of you hold on this very debated topic?

 

[Fly Navy]

700 in the entire war. It's tragic, and my step-brother lost a friend of his in Afghanistan, but think about it. How many did we lose in ONE day in D-Day? Why is the military spread thin? Hmmmmm maybe about 10 years of absolutely destroying it at the hands of liberal politicians. Draft is not what we need, what we need is someone with some damn common sense to realize the military can NOT be cut any further. It may need to be reworked, reorganized, but it can not take any more cuts.

 

[Fly Navy]

That was in no way an attack on you by the way, I'm just pissed at how the military has been dessimated in the past 10 years.

 

[buck_ttu06]

I absoultely agree! Donald Rumsfeld keeps saying how he would prefer a smaller, better equiped, and trained military. How do plan on being all over the plant with such a smaller force then Donald? I agree that while it is tragic 700 have died, it isn't to bad for over a year of occupation. But I do not see it being reworked or reorganized anytime soon. If the casualities keep coming in (K.I.A. and wounded) and the violence continues to spread, which is VERY likely, and recruitment continues to struggle... what other choice will officals have? And I hope to God we do not have to get involved anywhere else in the world anytime soon!

 

[Fly Navy]

Occupation is a messy job, especially in that area of the world. It worked fine in Germany and Japan, because they were civilized and they understood what defeat and surrender meant. Technically we never saw a surrender in Iraq, so I can understand the continued fighting. Problem is, you can't use the Iron Hand of Death because we're trying to keep the population on our side. It's a sh!tty situation. Personally, that area of the world should be left to rot.

 

[buck_ttu06]

lol. I think alot of people are with you on that one! I truely believe that democracy will never make it in the middle east... they have been murdering each other for thousands of years, it is all that they know. I think if everything continues on its present course, we will see the draft reinstated. What a mess!

 

[Flash]

Sorry guys but I seriously doubt that we will have a draft anytime soon. I think that it is a political dud to begin with and a bad idea overall. While I have nothing but respect for the guys who were drafted in WWII, Korea and Vietnam, the military is much different today than it was back then. It is much more technical and specialized today and there would be serious problems if they reintroduced the draft. While there may be a few benefits to the draft, I would much prefer to have people who want to be in the military than those who have to be there. Rumsfeld and just about any Admiral or General who has been asked has emphatically said the same thing.

 

[Fly Navy]

Sorry about what? I agree with you. I'm against a draft.

 

[cricechex]

I just saw this article.
http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?storyID=123007538

The Chair Farce obviously doesn't need more men! The Navy doesn't either. They have been tightening their requirements for enlistment for a while now. You can't even get in with a GED anymore, unless you have a bunch of college credit.

 

[Fly Navy]

The Army needs more men. The Army is stretched the most. The Marines need new ****, so does the Navy. Air Force already has plenty of money. But the Army needs more men NOW.

 

[buck_ttu06]

Flynavy is right. The Army is the branch that is stretched to its limits. They are the ones in the middle of all this ****, accounting for most of the K.I.A.'s and wounded. If a draft was to be reinstated, it would be in large part to make up for the shortcomings in the Army, not the other branches. You will not hear the draft mentioned at all this year by any politicians, since it is an election year and everyone wants to get re-elected. That is why some analysist predict it to become a major topic in 2005, just after the elections, that is if things continue to worsen or another attack (God forbide!) occurs on American soil. On our current heading, I seriously think it is going to occur. Volunteers will become more & more scarce as it drags on... However, I to would prefer to serve and be protected by those who want to be there, not forced to.

 

[Fly Navy]

Eh, just remember, the draft is brought up ever few years. It's like a perpetual issue. And that black Democrat from I think Brooklyn or Queens (I forget his name, that's the only ID I have on him) wants it reinstated for race and economy reasons. He's a fvcking putz.

 

[Fly Navy]

I officially abstain from any comments on Rumsfield, good or bad. That's more trouble than it's worth.

 

[bunk22]

From what I've seen in my 11+ years in the Navy, about 50% of our volunteer force is somewhat less than, lets say, average. I know the Navy doesn't draft (used as an example) but if we have those volunteering who are willing to accept their performance at half-ass, then drafting many who want nothing to do with the military won't exactly improve the situation. Just gives us numbers. I think patriotism is very much lacking now days. The Iraq war really hasn't affected us at home. Perhaps if the Red Chinese decided to somehow come marching up our shores to **** with our way of life, then maybe the draft would be a good thing with many young folks willing to fight for their way of life. Just my little .02.

 

[Fly Navy]

As per my tag, I'm in Primary Yeah, I'm a smart ass.