Gouge on this is that it took place at columbus, and that the Jap studs arent dumb. The kid was jsut messing with the IP, by the way the IPs call sign...SATAN, no joke.
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Turn The Heat Off!!!
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Well, the callsign is fitting. I am not doubting that the IP jumped all over him a bit much... but still. Seems to me that messing with your IP isn't a good idea.
I jsut listened to it again keeping the fact the we was F)cking with him in mind, and its even funnier.
Harrier Dude
Living the dream
In T-34s an instructor had me pre-flight in a downpour while he stayed in base ops. He was surprised how soaking wet his seat/cockpit had become. Perhaps that's because I opened his canopy while I preflighted.
In hindsight, it probably wasn't the best idea (possible damage to avionics) but it felt good to stick it to The Man.
In hindsight, it probably wasn't the best idea (possible damage to avionics) but it felt good to stick it to The Man.
Harrier Dude
Living the dream
Fly Navy said:
It was one of those P-cola passing showers. It cleared up before we took off. I could have easily waited until it passed, but I was a 20 year old NAVCAD at the time and didn't feel salty enough to tell him to stick it. Plus I had a long flight with him to look forward to, so I figured a little "silent protest" would have been better. Like I said, maybe not the best COA.
"Sir, what was wrong?"
"Just go ahead and fly your profile..."
"Just go ahead and fly your profile..."
He reminds me of the dipsheits who go to other countries and have this dialogue:
"Gimme a beer"
Bartender: ????
"GIMME BEER"
Bartender: *Points to bottle of Peppermint Schnappz*
"GIMME BEER YOU POS!!!!!"
Bartender: *Starts freaking out pointing to different alcohols"
"BEER BEER BEER DO YOU NOT SPEAK ENGLISH???"
That is incredibly annoying. At no point does YELLING ever improve one's ability to understand a foreign language. Unless of course the person being yelled at is the enemy and there is a weapon pointed at them - in which case the language barrier is much more transparent.
"Gimme a beer"
Bartender: ????
"GIMME BEER"
Bartender: *Points to bottle of Peppermint Schnappz*
"GIMME BEER YOU POS!!!!!"
Bartender: *Starts freaking out pointing to different alcohols"
"BEER BEER BEER DO YOU NOT SPEAK ENGLISH???"
That is incredibly annoying. At no point does YELLING ever improve one's ability to understand a foreign language. Unless of course the person being yelled at is the enemy and there is a weapon pointed at them - in which case the language barrier is much more transparent.
Harrier Dude
Living the dream
Just try the time proven West Pac translation method from Rush Hour:
"Do YOU understand the WORDS coming out of my MOUTH???"
The japanese love it here.
"Do YOU understand the WORDS coming out of my MOUTH???"
The japanese love it here.
This lack of communication is not at all unusual when working with foreign pilots, mechanics, ATC personnel and controllers. English may be the "official language" --- but on paper only and it ain't the King's English. 
Many, many Sea Stories have origins in this type of ... "communication". 
I think this instructor did just fine. Having "been there" --- with foreign STUDs and Aviators --- and having had runaway cockpit hot bleed air --- I say again, the instructor did just fine -- didn't lose it. He seemed kind of "gentle" to me ....
Some of you may not be aware how hot it can get when cockpit hot bleed air runs away from a failure or this possible screw-up. You cannot afford to mess around with it as temps ranging from 150-200 F are not unheard of ... I've seen burns and burned gear and know of at least one canopy jettison to cope with runaway hot bleed air.
Sauna ??? Nope, it's more like practicing for Hell :icon_rage
Many, many Sea Stories have origins in this type of ... "communication". I think this instructor did just fine. Having "been there" --- with foreign STUDs and Aviators --- and having had runaway cockpit hot bleed air --- I say again, the instructor did just fine -- didn't lose it. He seemed kind of "gentle" to me ....
Some of you may not be aware how hot it can get when cockpit hot bleed air runs away from a failure or this possible screw-up. You cannot afford to mess around with it as temps ranging from 150-200 F are not unheard of ... I've seen burns and burned gear and know of at least one canopy jettison to cope with runaway hot bleed air.
Sauna ??? Nope, it's more like practicing for Hell :icon_rage
Well if it was runaway ECS, you're absolutely right, and my tune changes entirely. Don't have your experience. but I've already had a buddy get runaway full hot on a solo. Damn near got heatstroke bringing the plane back. And I've had many an IP explain a brusque remark in the debrief as not having time to explain, just to tell. No problemo here. Thick skin a prerequisite as always.A4sForever said:
But from the reaction of the student it seemed that the cockpit was fine (e.g. "safe") and the instructor was just getting hot under the collar in two senses of the phrase. Which led me to pronounce him a jerk. There are yellers who are respected for their intensity and those who are saluted, obeyed, then described by their students behind their back as a**holes and this guy seems to be the latter. Stud asking what he got reamed for and just getting told to shut up and fly? Please.
Yowch. Flying it with my own (American) roommate the first time was hard enough.Fly Navy said:
Screamers (we didn't call them "yellers" -- too much like Disney's 'Ol Yeller who was ... loveable) have always "been there" and will always "be here". I've had 'em myself and I've been accused of being one. And I've even been one. I'll bet that suprises you, yes???nittany03 said:
I've also stood up to one notorious one and told him to go fvck himself. No more problems from him ... as he was out of line and I wasn't. A fine line to judge, to be sure ..... 
You gotta walk in the instructor's boots before you judge. It "sounds" like it was hotter than hell and not getting any better. That calls for strong measures. Like I say, I've been there --- and one of the most frustrating things imagineable is trying to 'get' something across to a marginal STUD, especially if said STUD is English-challenged --- or perhaps just a USMC STUD who was Polish and an AGGIE to boot.
Don't laugh --- I had one. But seriously ... you have to have walked the walk before you criticize --- ESPECIALLY when you are flying an aircraft.
And you think YOU don't like "SCREAMERS"??
Strange, but true: I liked the way some of the Chileans and Bolivians that I trained in the airline handled the language "gap". They had their own "mentor" who would haul off and slap them in the back of the head -- hard -- when they screwed up something in the simulator or in class. One time I told a below average STUD to "SPEAK UP"!! Their "mentor" whacked him behind the head and shouted "MAS FUERTE !!!"
That translation was a thing of beauty.
Harrier Dude
Living the dream
A4sForever said:Screamers (we didn't call them "yellers" -- too much like Disney's 'Ol Yeller who was ... loveable) have always "been there" and will always "be here". I've had 'em myself and I've been accused of being one. And I've even been one. I'll bet that suprises you, yes???
or perhaps just a USMC STUD who was Polish and an AGGIE to boot.
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That translation was a thing of beauty.
I'm astonished to hear that you might be considered a Yeller by anyone. You? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
I know how it feels to teach foreign studs. Most have above average skills that I've seen (Italians) but the language can be frustrating. Of course I don't think I'd do any better flying in Italy speaking Italian.
When the ECS goes full hot in the Harrier, stand the fvck by for pain. Sometimes burns to the hands. Depending on the sverity of the malfuncion.
I can't get the video to run. maybe it's NMCI. Then again, maybe it's me.
After all, I'm an Aggie Marine.
Gig 'Em and Semper Fi.