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Transitioning to the reserves with 12 years Active Duty and 5 years prior reserve time

USNA_2005

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You cannot do paid AT in the VTU. You can only do paid ADT, paid ADSW or MOB (volunteer), as well as unpaid AT.

Any VTU questions, please let me know as I am VTU and I have a LCDR pilot in my VTU unit who came off of active duty and I can put you in touch with him.

And yes, what @AFUAW said. You can be tagged well before your dwell ends with a Ready Load Date (RLD) that starts the day after your 2 year deferment ends. If you have a TS/SCI then count on it. They have a big boner for O4 pilots/NFO's with TS/SCI's and they are getting tagged with RLD's just after their dwell ends.

See if you can log in here (CAC Enabled): https://www.bol.navy.mil/

Then select ASOSH which is your annual statement of service. It will tell you how many points and how many years you have that count towards retirement.

Re, Reserve VR Squadron jobs, while I am no pilot, other Reserve pilots have told me these Reserve VR squadron jobs are very "clicky". That is, you have to know someone.

Have you considered changing your designator on your way to the Reserve? I am an IP/1825 and we get many a pilot coming off of active duty who come to our community some of whom pick up O5 just by sheer numbers math (we are a very small community). Last couple of O5 boards have been hovering around 85% select rate. You'll be in a training status for at least 36 months and cannot be MOB'd during that time. If you wanted to do 1815/CW I think their qualification time is 4 years but I'd have to check.
It took me years after leaving active duty to get my ASOSH to show up in BOL. Countless calls and tickets put in with NPC, I just kept getting referred to different departments in Millington while they would close whatever ticket they opened as resolved.
 
It took me years after leaving active duty to get my ASOSH to show up in BOL. Countless calls and tickets put in with NPC, I just kept getting referred to different departments in Millington while they would close whatever ticket they opened as resolved.
did you end up sending your Statement of service and DD-214 to PERS-912?

Thats what I was told to do. I am unsure how long it will take now.
 

USNA_2005

New Member
did you end up sending your Statement of service and DD-214 to PERS-912?

Thats what I was told to do. I am unsure how long it will take now.
No, they could see the information. They just couldn’t get the data from one database to another, I have no idea why not. It just took dogged persistence and follow up.
 

snake020

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nittany03

FUBIJAR
pilot
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It is a bit of a mess.

Having gone through the process relatively recently, this is about 30 percent true and 70 percent inflammatory clickbait. Sal has some things to say now and then, but other times, he's an old man yelling at clouds. This is mostly the latter.

That's not to say the MOB process is perfect . . . far, far from it. To start, why did I have to take three, hell, FOUR fucking physicals first? I had to do an initial screening, a full-on pre-MOB at NAVHOSP Oak Harbor, AND re-hack my flight physical early. Then, what's the first thing I did when I got to ECRC? Go to the quarterdeck, show your CAC, and turn left to get in line for yet another medical screening. Did I mention SELRES have to pass a PHA every year just like active duty?

This doesn't strike me as a legitimate effort to mitigate the risk of a Sailor having medical issues downrange. This strikes me as either the AC being paranoid that "those reservists" can't screen people properly, Big Navy being tight-assed about paying for long-term medical issues in the line of duty, or both.
 

Treetop Flyer

Well-Known Member
pilot
Having gone through the process relatively recently, this is about 30 percent true and 70 percent inflammatory clickbait. Sal has some things to say now and then, but other times, he's an old man yelling at clouds. This is mostly the latter.

That's not to say the MOB process is perfect . . . far, far from it. To start, why did I have to take three, hell, FOUR fucking physicals first? I had to do an initial screening, a full-on pre-MOB at NAVHOSP Oak Harbor, AND re-hack my flight physical early. Then, what's the first thing I did when I got to ECRC? Go to the quarterdeck, show your CAC, and turn left to get in line for yet another medical screening. Did I mention SELRES have to pass a PHA every year just like active duty?

This doesn't strike me as a legitimate effort to mitigate the risk of a Sailor having medical issues downrange. This strikes me as either the AC being paranoid that "those reservists" can't screen people properly, Big Navy being tight-assed about paying for long-term medical issues in the line of duty, or both.
I recently did a SMCR mobilization/deployment, and there was initially a push for us to do the full Navy style ridiculous medical screening. We successfully stiff armed that nonsense, but we did get to experience the travel claim fuckery. It’s not just the Navy dealing with that.
 

Flash

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Then, what's the first thing I did when I got to ECRC? Go to the quarterdeck, show your CAC, and turn left to get in line for yet another medical screening. Did I mention SELRES have to pass a PHA every year just like active duty? This strikes me as either the AC being paranoid that "those reservists" can't screen people properly, Big Navy being tight-assed about paying for long-term medical issues in the line of duty, or both.
I saw the figures for the folks who didn’t make ‘downrange’ about the time I first MOB’d, about 80-90% of the folks who got orders but didn’t make it ‘downrange’ were for medical issues and most of which had been missed or papered over by NOSC’s. Some of the ones I saw were stupid but plenty were legit, “ma’am, we need you see the doctor right away” after taking someone’s blood pressure isn’t something you should hear for someone getting ready to deploy Afghanistan. And let’s be realistic, the PHA is a joke.

So is it a bit stupid but it makes sense too, a lot like the government in general.
 

nittany03

FUBIJAR
pilot
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I saw the figures for the folks who didn’t make ‘downrange’ about the time I first MOB’d, about 80-90% of the folks who got orders but didn’t make it ‘downrange’ were for medical issues and most of which had been missed or papered over by NOSC’s. Some of the ones I saw were stupid but plenty were legit, “ma’am, we need you see the doctor right away” after taking someone’s blood pressure isn’t something you should hear for someone getting ready to deploy Afghanistan. And let’s be realistic, the PHA is a joke.

So is it a bit stupid but it makes sense too, a lot like the government in general.
So because a few people shit their pants, it's OK and appropriate that we all have to wear diapers?
 
I can personally attest to ridiculous pay problems.

I went to Iraq during the surge in 2008 as a 21 year old kid mobilized between his junior and senior year of college.

I had zero dollars to my name to begin with and was valet parking cars at a hotel 20 hours a week to have some beer/gas/surfboard money.

Got to ECRC and then Iraq and didn’t receive pay for months. I was already broke. I lived off drill pay and tips and lived at home at my parents house during college. So imagine going from barely getting by to no money at all.

I had to ask my parents to lend me money multiple times during this period to just pay my bills.

I wasn’t working a desk job in Iraq either. I was in a highly stressful patrol a day environment and still not getting paid. I still my remember my father emailing me in response to me venting about not getting paid and telling me something along the lines of

“it’s just money. You need to pay attention and keep your head In the game. I’ll make sure you have money in your account every two weeks, don’t worry.”

It was absolutely absurd to me and still is. We need to do better
 

bubblehead

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NOSCs, or CNRFC rather, have "fixed" the surprise medical issues nonsense. We had Reservists who were intentionally hiding medical issues for MOB management. That is, when they got tagged for MOB and showed up for their RLD, their MOB would be cancelled due to the medical issue(s). Depending on the MOB, it would then get short-fused filled by some unlucky member. It was happening quite a bit.

All NOSCs now make members sign Page 13's attesting to the fact that they have disclosed all known medical conditions/issues and that they will report any changes to the NOSC.

Members who fail to disclose medical conditions can and are administratively separated in accordance with MILPERSMAN 1910-158.
 

SlickAg

Registered User
pilot
Having gone through the process relatively recently, this is about 30 percent true and 70 percent inflammatory clickbait. Sal has some things to say now and then, but other times, he's an old man yelling at clouds. This is mostly the latter.
I think you missed some context here. That wasn't Sal writing, it was a guest post by a current SELRES. Perhaps he's also gone through this process recently. Just because it didn't happen to you personally doesn't mean it isn't true and/or valid. We need MORE essays like this highlighting the shortfalls in our system, not less.
 
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