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The motivating parts of TBS

CumminsPilot

VA...not so bad
pilot
Do I sense a fear that, sometime soon, some women will? Would that mean the end of the Marine Corps as we/you know it?

Don't think it meant diddley-squat to Naval Aviation…even though many thought it would. "Oh, the humanity!"

CAVEAT: I pretty much think I truly DO understand the differences between combat aviation and Infantry. Only have first-hand experience in the former…but I think I get it. Over to you folks in the latter to work the "standards" thing. Someone's going to pass…plan for it.
I am not afraid of women in the USMC in any job...if that's what they want to do, and they can do it, by all means, kick ass and carry on. I have a lot of first-hand experience dealing with a female Marine officer and if they can hack IOC, then by all means, they belong there.
 

scoolbubba

Well-Known Member
pilot
Contributor
Do I sense a fear that, sometime soon, some women will? Would that mean the end of the Marine Corps as we/you know it?

Don't think it meant diddley-squat to Naval Aviation…even though many thought it would. "Oh, the humanity!"

CAVEAT: I pretty much think I truly DO understand the differences between combat aviation and Infantry. Only have first-hand experience in the former…but I think I get it. Over to you folks in the latter to work the "standards" thing. Someone's going to pass…plan for it.
Apples and oranges. Naval aviation usually involves a return to a boat or airfield with separate tents, latrine facilities, a modicum of privacy, etc. We are also officer heavy, with more of a support network on both sides of the gender equation.

My understanding, if what you can call the snippets I've gleaned from my college friend/best mans USMC infantry officer experience, is that grunt life offers none of the above. Dirty, nasty, mean...all the worst things for as long as it takes to get the job done. If a female can hack it, does it still make it worth it for all the other problems that will come up? His opinion, and one I'm putting more faith than most in, is absolutely not.
 

CommodoreMid

Whateva! I do what I want!
None
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To be politically correct, it has also become a kick in the vagina for two females, and probably more in the future. Those two females didn't complete the course though, so maybe not...
Obviously have no experience in the matter, but the failure of 2 women (one of whom was dropped due to injury, not performance) to complete the course provides absolutely no statistical significance.


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CumminsPilot

VA...not so bad
pilot
Obviously have no experience in the matter, but the failure of 2 women (one of whom was dropped due to injury, not performance) to complete the course provides absolutely no statistical significance.
I agree, it does not show statistical significance, but it shows that it is not something women will just walk into and get through. If they make it through on the same merits as the men, then they belong there.

But they won't...some twat in congress who's never served a day of military service in her life will see to it that the standards are lowered to allow someone who doesn't belong there to lead Marines into combat on the front lines as an 0302. And THAT is wrong.
 

CommodoreMid

Whateva! I do what I want!
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Super Moderator
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I agree, it does not show statistical significance, but it shows that it is not something women will just walk into and get through. If they make it through on the same merits as the men, then they belong there.

But they won't...some twat in congress who's never served a day of military service in her life will see to it that the standards are lowered to allow someone who doesn't belong there to lead Marines into combat on the front lines as an 0302. And THAT is wrong.
Unfortunately, I totally agree with you on the stupid congressional twat who would push for lower standards in the name of "fairness." Are there women out there who can pass IOC and can be effective infantry officers? Definitely. I'm in pretty good shape but I know I wouldn't be one of them. It just saddens me because this is basically the Kara Hultgreen equivalent for the ground pounding types. Everyone knows women are perfectly capable of being aviators and since the risk rule was eliminated countless numbers of women have proved themselves to be more than capable officers and aviators, but Kara Hultgreen illustrated how the push for diversity can lead to tragedy. For the record I think the sub types have been doing the integration deal very well so far, but I'm afraid this new push isn't going to go so well and some terrible shit will occur as a result. How the hell have we not learned our lesson from that?
 

Hotdogs

Leeroy Jenkins
pilot
There was ONE motivating 2-hour period at TBS.....CAS STEX
You mean the part where you hear a bunch of non-JTAC Capt types spout off random things they know about CAS and bag on pilots? Then flip around the stick model of an F-16 (...and they swear it's an F/A-18) and try to talk about weapons to target match and swear you can k-kill a T-80 with flechette and 20mm? or the part where they say you need to "think" about convincing a section of skids to fly within the WEZ of a ZSU-23-4 to take out a BMP? Yup. I remember that part too.
 

squeeze

Harrier Dude
pilot
Super Moderator
Contributor
You mean the part where you hear a bunch of non-JTAC Capt types spout off random things they know about CAS and bag on pilots? Then flip around the stick model of an F-16 (...and they swear it's an F/A-18) and try to talk about weapons to target match and swear you can k-kill a T-80 with flechette and 20mm? or the part where they say you need to "think" about convincing a section of skids to fly within the WEZ of a ZSU-23-4 to take out a BMP? Yup. I remember that part too.
You wanna go be an IP @ TBS? Ya, me neither. There you have it.
 

Renegade One

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Strippers at our Mess Night in the Hawk....Charlie'83.
Nice thread jack...

Strippers in the BOQ in Yuma after a K-Court... With our female flight surgeon making out with one of them. I win.
Strong contender…but I'm waiting...

My buddy met his wife working at Platinum's during WTI.
You buddy is in contention for "Winner".

Phones are still open, and our friendly operators are standing by to take your call...
 
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