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The Great Flight Jacket Thread (wearing/buying Leather, NOMEX, WEP jackets/patches)
- Thread starter Lt_SNA_USMC
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You really have to bug those bastards to get your jacket. I was 0701 and it took all the way until advanced to get my jacket (~1 year). I was calling them like once a week near the end. I think someone finally changed the people working the place which was why I finally got one. Granted they also changed the phone number which added a few more weeks onto my search...
090514-N-4133B-356 NAVAL AIR STATION, North Island (May 14, 2009) Vice President, Joe Biden receives a flight jacket from the Commanding Offficer of USS Ronald Reagan Capt. Kenneth Norton on the quarterdeck aboard the Nimitz-Class aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan (CVN 76). The Vice President and his wife, Dr. Jill Biden, visited Ronald Reagan during a familiarization tour of naval facilities in the San Diego area. Reagan is preparing for its upcoming deployment to the Western Pacific and Indian Ocean later this spring. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Benjamin Brossard/Released)
I know it's fairly routine to present flight jackets to Super Senior VIPs (POTUS, VP, etc). Probably earns some dividends down the road. Both Presidents Bush wore theirs frequently in photos when they were in casual attire. Both were pilots, so not too big a deal. I just noticed that Vice President Biden's jacket appears to be sporting some wings on the name tag. Does anyone know if he is a civilian pilot. I know he did not have military service. I can fully understand presenting the flight jacket. I would have stopped short of adorning it w/ NA wings and his name, though.
MasterBates
Well-Known Member
I noticed the same, but figured since he's the REALLY BIG XO, he probably gets what he wants.
Actually, and I'm sure I will quickly be bitched slapped if I am wrong, I don't think the VP has any standing in the military chain of command other than ceremonial/honorary unless the Pres. specifically grants him some sort of positional authority. It's not like he is constitutionally the Vice CINC.
Of course there is the whole "one heartbeat away" thing that could instantly change the situation......
Does anyone in here happen to have the contact info for the lady in P'cola that issues leather flight jackets, or is suppose to send them to you if they don't have them in stock?
The "Typsy Gypsy" who started the rage is in Jacksonville. Use search and you'll find out how to contact his storefront.
E26
Member
I have a question I feel I must ask the community here for input. Next week I will be off and backpacking in Europe for a while. I got a new pack and wanted to patch the US flag on there to show some pride, but thought it'd be pretty cool to patch this on as well as homage to Tomcatters [Plus that Kangaroo looks mighty fine]. I understand the general idea of being a tool, etc, but I don't see the harm in patching this on, perhaps due to being the naive, young fool I am. Anyways, I wanted some input here to make sure I'm not making a mistake I might regret down the line 
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I have a question I feel I must ask the community here for input. Next week I will be off and backpacking in Europe for a while. I got a new pack and wanted to patch the US flag on there to show some pride, but thought it'd be pretty cool to patch this on as well as homage to Tomcatters [Plus that Kangaroo looks mighty fine]. I understand the general idea of being a tool, etc, but I don't see the harm in patching this on, perhaps due to being the naive, young fool I am. Anyways, I wanted some input here to make sure I'm not making a mistake I might regret down the line
Ever see the movie "Hostel?"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0450278/
Steve
PR1 H
Perpetually fixing cranial/rectal inversions
Two questions, one reply.
Yes. Simply put, leather material is not forgiving at all. This is why most folks put on their nametag, and that's it. When you sew on a patch, the needle punches the leather and if you ever take off what is on there, you better have a patch that will cover it exactly. Those holes stay there and don't close up. The CWU-36/P and CWU-45/P (summer and winter weight flight jackets) are made of aramid cloth, so when the needle goes through, it simply pushes the threads aside. So when you take off a patch there... a little heat or steam and you'll never know anything had ever been there. This is also why if you ever have any repairs needed to a leather jacket, don't take it to the PRAN in the shop. Talk with the PR1 to find out who is the best at sewing in the shop. Once you mention it's for a leather, most likely, he'll be the one to do it and not the junior guys.
Pride at home is one thing, and I'm all for it. However, pride abroad has the strong potential to make you a target. Movie references aside I think that the history of this young man could drive home my point better than anyone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Stethem
Key notes:
When their demands were not met, Stethem was singled out. The hijackers learned he was a member of the U.S. military and then beaten and tortured. Finally, the hijackers shot him and dumped his body onto the tarmac at the Beirut airport.
And from the State Department website:
TWA Hijacking, June 14, 1985: A Trans-World Airlines flight was hijacked en route to Rome from Athens by two Lebanese Hizballah terrorists and forced to fly to Beirut. The eight crew members and 145 passengers were held for seventeen days, during which one American hostage, a U.S. Navy sailor, was murdered.
You'll notice that only 1 of 153 was murdered.
Just .02 from the paranoid guy with a little salt behind the ears.
Yes. Simply put, leather material is not forgiving at all. This is why most folks put on their nametag, and that's it. When you sew on a patch, the needle punches the leather and if you ever take off what is on there, you better have a patch that will cover it exactly. Those holes stay there and don't close up. The CWU-36/P and CWU-45/P (summer and winter weight flight jackets) are made of aramid cloth, so when the needle goes through, it simply pushes the threads aside. So when you take off a patch there... a little heat or steam and you'll never know anything had ever been there. This is also why if you ever have any repairs needed to a leather jacket, don't take it to the PRAN in the shop. Talk with the PR1 to find out who is the best at sewing in the shop. Once you mention it's for a leather, most likely, he'll be the one to do it and not the junior guys.
Pride at home is one thing, and I'm all for it. However, pride abroad has the strong potential to make you a target. Movie references aside I think that the history of this young man could drive home my point better than anyone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Stethem
Key notes:
When their demands were not met, Stethem was singled out. The hijackers learned he was a member of the U.S. military and then beaten and tortured. Finally, the hijackers shot him and dumped his body onto the tarmac at the Beirut airport.
And from the State Department website:
TWA Hijacking, June 14, 1985: A Trans-World Airlines flight was hijacked en route to Rome from Athens by two Lebanese Hizballah terrorists and forced to fly to Beirut. The eight crew members and 145 passengers were held for seventeen days, during which one American hostage, a U.S. Navy sailor, was murdered.
You'll notice that only 1 of 153 was murdered.
Just .02 from the paranoid guy with a little salt behind the ears.
E26
Member
Ever see the movie "Hostel?"
hah yes. When I went last year, I had sewed the US Flag on a highly visible spot on my old pack. I got some flak for it while walking down a really bad area in Dortmund, Germany. Literally. It was 'round bout New Years, and somebody threw fireworks at me down on the street.
No matter what though, I'll always represent the red, white, and blue in someway. Even if it means only in my mind
Now, where's my Combat Action Ribbon :icon_tong
I say hell yeah, wear the American flag on the pack. I hate those D-bags who pretend they are Canadian and put a Canadian flag on their pack.
I wouldn't put on the Tomcat patch. That looks like something to save in your patch collection at home, not on you luggage. Just my opinion.
I wouldn't put on the Tomcat patch. That looks like something to save in your patch collection at home, not on you luggage. Just my opinion.
PR1 H
Perpetually fixing cranial/rectal inversions
Did you even read the second part of my reply? Anyone that has received an AT brief will tell you bad idea.