MasterBates
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Would that be the COD CO who is currently the RAG CO Kmac?
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The End of the Officers Club
- Thread starter HeyJoe
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So true, this is one of the real disappointments in the loss of vibrant command supported O-Clubs. An O-Club was the only reliable place you could see the base skipper, the commodore, his buddy the congressman's staffer, the CAG LSO and your own PXO all in one place casually having fun and open to comments, questions, and on occasion, insults
. You aren't likely to be able to say "that's bull shit Commodore" to said senior officer at 1400 on a Monday in his office, if you could get an appointment, but you could get away with it in the club. I was once in a group of O-3s and O-4s that spent 25 minutes telling an influential two star that the V-22 was not suitable as a S-3 replacement. You don't get that sort of access or unadulterated opinion any other way. I once saw guys beating the hell out of a base C.O. for the condition of the golf course. No amount of comment cards or surveys makes the same impression. One afternoon I had a serious one on one with the CAG about getting out, or staying in the Navy. No retention B.S. Just a great two way about the pros and cons from a senior guy at the pinnacle of his career. While the O-Clubs are important for JOPA in terms of team building, convenience, etc, they can also play a huge role in the mentoring and communication between seniors and juniors. It is as important for the O-5 through O-7s to get into the O-Clubs as the JOPA. It is the most fun part of deck plate leadership 
. And because of this informal atmosphere, lubricated opinion, and open communication, it is imperative they truly be OFFICER'S Clubs. Today, you young guys just don't get the access to seniors we once got at O-Clubs. Seems to me, if the Elephants drank more with the JOPA, things would be better all around. And the O-Club is the place to do it.
nice way of putting it.
Aren't greens a "winter uniform option" only? Isn't it summertime there, or is this some locally-sanctioned "year round" rule? Inquiring minds want to know...
I also see on the Tailhook web site that CAPT Reavey is the coordinator for the "Pensacola Tailhook Ready Room". How's that effort going? I do the San Diego Ready Room, so am curious about the others...
V/R, Spike
This is copied from another post, but I thought it might get some attention in this thread and help the Kingsville O'club on a non-winging Friday night. We don't just train pilots down here, we train the next generation of Club-goers!
"I guess everyone has to hang up their guns sooner or later and for me that day is July 17, 2009. If anyone wants to come to the ceremony, it will be 1430 at the NAS Kingsville, Texas O'club.
After all the sobbing dies down I'll be sending the Franklin brothers into the bar to help folks drown their sorrows, so if you just want to show up for that, I reckon around 1500-1530. (Never been particularly long-winded, but I can't vouch for the guest speaker;-)
Adios, Cowboy:cowboy_12"
"I guess everyone has to hang up their guns sooner or later and for me that day is July 17, 2009. If anyone wants to come to the ceremony, it will be 1430 at the NAS Kingsville, Texas O'club.
After all the sobbing dies down I'll be sending the Franklin brothers into the bar to help folks drown their sorrows, so if you just want to show up for that, I reckon around 1500-1530. (Never been particularly long-winded, but I can't vouch for the guest speaker;-)
Adios, Cowboy:cowboy_12"
I'm all for an O-Club revival up there. Like I said before, it'll have to wait a couple months before I get up there, but when I do, stand by...:icon_smil.
http://www.npc.navy.mil/CommandSupp...erWorking/MaleOfficerAviationWorkingGreen.htm makes no mention of a winter only requirement. By contrast the section on choker whites and summer whites does specify that those uniforms are to be worn during the summer time. This would lead me to believe that AWGs can be worn year 'round. Otherwise seasonal wear would have been specified.
I second.
Maybe I'll hit up the O-Club tonight. Haven't been in a while (outside of lunch).
**Awesome article by the way....
Maybe this should go in the stupid questions thread, but here goes -
Maybe this is part of the problem: I commissioned out of OCS, and they never told us anything about O-Club protocol. I'd be willing to bet a whole ton of us fresh butter-bars don't go just because they don't know how to act - DO'S and DON'Ts. Can we bring civilian dates? Is it uniform-only? I'll check it out tonight, but I want to know the rules first.
Flame-on for me maybe not doing my homework, but I can't find this stuff anywhere. Someone fill me in!
Maybe this is part of the problem: I commissioned out of OCS, and they never told us anything about O-Club protocol. I'd be willing to bet a whole ton of us fresh butter-bars don't go just because they don't know how to act - DO'S and DON'Ts. Can we bring civilian dates? Is it uniform-only? I'll check it out tonight, but I want to know the rules first.
Flame-on for me maybe not doing my homework, but I can't find this stuff anywhere. Someone fill me in!
MasterBates
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Cowboy, you going to ride the Kat at your retirement?
It's technically not even an "O-Club" anymore. We don't pay dues for it. If enlisted really wanted to, I'm sure they could get themselves in. So in that respect, civilian friends and what not, I am sure they are more than welcomed to come join. Civilian female friends are always a plus, too
. Sisters work just as well also :icon_smil.Seems like Fridays are always the new API guys who get to wear their flight suits for the first time (will be me next week, lol). But I haven't been in about two months. I'll be venturing out tonight with a few other SNA's.
It's technically not even an "O-Club" anymore. We don't pay dues for it. If enlisted really wanted to, I'm sure they could get themselves in. So in that respect, civilian friends and what not, I am sure they are more than welcomed to come join. Civilian female friends are always a plus, too
Seems like Fridays are always the new API guys who get to wear their flight suits for the first time (will be me next week, lol). But I haven't been in about two months. I'll be venturing out tonight with a few other SNA's.
Thanks. Uniform rules? I just classed up (3609), so I'm not far behind. Thinking of coming tonight if I can bring the lady friend.