Stupid Questions about Naval Aviation (Part 3)

[Jim123]

then again, you have a lot more 5 wet shots than I do now

 

[Austin-Powers]

Hey, that's my line!

Anyway, who flies the T-6As out of Pensacola for NFO training?

 

[azguy]

Correct. I don't off the top of my head know if you could theoretically substitute the centerline ARS for another tank, but I know "4 wet" (i.e. no ARS but the other 4 wing tanks) is illegal. In terms of takeoff weight, you are pushing max TO weight for the E/F in 5 wet, basically no extra weight available to carry anything else on the outboards or wingtips assuming you are fully bagged out, so no practical use in flying 5 wet for anything other than tanker. That and it flies like a dump truck.

Given that the 5-wet tanker puts so much strain on the airframe, what other options are out there? I've heard, in events where big-wing support is available, the wings launch empty 5-wets to prevent the strain, then have the MTNK yo-yo from the big-wing.

 

[Meyerkord]

Hey, that's my line!

Anyway, who flies the T-6As out of Pensacola for NFO training?

VT-4 and VT-10. Or were you wondering if there's anyone specifically on the forum flying there currently?

 

[wlawr005]

Given that the 5-wet tanker puts so much strain on the airframe, what other options are out there? I've heard, in events where big-wing support is available, the wings launch empty 5-wets to prevent the strain, then have the MTNK yo-yo from the big-wing.

You can launch 3 wet or ARS only if you're planning on not being airborne very long. There are several ways to tackle the tanking problem....especially if there's big wing gas airborne.

 

[wlawr005]

I'd agree.....asym 1 shot is more violent than a 5 wet......then again, you have a lot more 5 wet shots than I do now

I like to think of it as "battle tanking".

 

[Austin-Powers]

VT-4 and VT-10. Or were you wondering if there's anyone specifically on the forum flying there currently?

Nah I mean who is in the backseat of the T-6A

 

[Flash]

Nah I mean who is in the backseat of the T-6A

Either the SNFO or IP depending on the flight.

 

[thosefreakinATs]

My crew never had a soft shot

pretty sure theres a pill for that now

you have a lot more 5 wet shots than I do now

is this a peter north reference?

"battle tanking".

now its getting hot in here

 

[ea6bflyr]

Nah I mean who is in the backseat of the T-6A

At VT-4/10, the first 8 FAM flights the SNFO sits in the front and the IP sits in the back. The SNFO learns basic pilot stuff: take-off, landings, approach, S-turns, spins, Level flight power changes, altitude management, comms, etc. After that, the SNFO sits in the back with the IP in the front and proceeds to NAV/Co-pilot stuff.

 

[Flash]

At VT-4/10, the first 8 FAM flights the SNFO sits in the front and the IP sits in the back. The SNFO learns basic pilot stuff: take-off, landings, approach, S-turns, spins, Level flight power changes, altitude management, comms, etc. After that, the SNFO sits in the back with the IP in the front and proceeds to NAV/Co-pilot stuff.

Pretty sure they shortened it to 6 flights years ago but am not sure, a more recent wingee, who got their wings less than 20 years ago , ought to know better.

 

[A Day In The Life]

Correct. I don't off the top of my head know if you could theoretically substitute the centerline ARS for another tank, but I know "4 wet" (i.e. no ARS but the other 4 wing tanks) is illegal. In terms of takeoff weight, you are pushing max TO weight for the E/F in 5 wet, basically no extra weight available to carry anything else on the outboards or wingtips assuming you are fully bagged out, so no practical use in flying 5 wet for anything other than tanker. That and it flies like a dump truck.

A 5 wet can have stores on the wingtip, even fully bagged out. We would frequently use the tanker to fulfill part of the DCA requirement while in the Gulf.

 

[wlawr005]

A 5 wet can have stores on the wingtip, even fully bagged out. We would frequently use the tanker to fulfill part of the DCA requirement while in the Gulf.

Dear lord.

 

[sevenhelmet]

Dear lord.

Having just come from the best C2X ever, are you surprised?

 

[wlawr005]

I mean, no. But at least we stiff armed....that.