Stupid Questions about Naval Aviation (Part 3)

[Treetop Flyer]

Neither. For the harrier, the slower the landing the better. A vertical landing can cause serious damage to an ordinary runway, and to the aircraft. A conventional landing can have the plane touching down as fast as 180 kts and even with nozzle braking it can take a lot of runway. The typical landing at an unfamiliar field would be a fixed nozzle slow landing, or a rolling vertical landing touching down at roughly 60-100 kts.

 

[usmarinemike]

I already have my private certificate. Can I file and fly instruments on the civilian side with my NATOPS instrument qual? If not, can I get instrument airplane added to my FAA ratings via equivalency test before wings?

 

[C420sailor]

I already have my private certificate. Can I file and fly instruments on the civilian side with my NATOPS instrument qual?

No.

If not, can I get instrument airplane added to my FAA ratings via equivalency test before wings?

No. I actually tried this a few weeks ago. The Commercial and Instrument are a package deal according to the FSDO and Oklahoma City. You have to wait until wings.

 

[BACONATOR]

No.



No. I actually tried this a few weeks ago. The Commercial and Instrument are a package deal according to the FSDO and Oklahoma City. You have to wait until wings.

Wut he sed.

But also, you can use your upchit as a 3rd class medical. AND, you can use military Instrument checks as IPCs for the same category civilian certificate.

 

[usmarinemike]

Bummer. Thanks.

 

[eas7888]

Bummer. Thanks.

Who wants to file IFR anyway? The biggest joy of flight comes from flying in class G airspace 1 mile, clear of clouds below 1200' AGL.

 

[BACONATOR]

Who wants to file IFR anyway? The biggest joy of flight comes from flying in class G airspace 1 mile, clear of clouds below 1200' AGL.

It's arguable. It's nice to sightsee and turn at will, but it's also nice to be able to rely on instilled procedures, and not have to think "as much". IFR = pilot proof. As long as your pre-flight planning was good and you did all your thinking on the ground (ie: your shit is in one sock), it's pretty much ATC saying "Fly here, do this" and you just drooling on yourself going "DUURRRR ROGER!" No worrying about busting airspace or anything. Just do what the voice tells you.

 

[eas7888]

It's arguable. It's nice to sightsee and turn at will, but it's also nice to be able to rely on instilled procedures, and not have to think "as much". IFR = pilot proof. As long as your pre-flight planning was good and you did all your thinking on the ground (ie: your shit is in one sock), it's pretty much ATC saying "Fly here, do this" and you just drooling on yourself going "DUURRRR ROGER!" No worrying about busting airspace or anything. Just do what the voice tells you.

I know what you mean. I was just playing around. I have to agree with you about flying IFR. It is nice to be able to put your course in, and flip on the flight director and autopilot and fly 'hands off.' At the same time, the most fun I've ever had was flying a super cub at an average of 1000AGL on a cross country. Old school, stick and rudder, few instruments, flying at its purest. Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.

 

[SynixMan]

I know what you mean. I was just playing around. I have to agree with you about flying IFR. It is nice to be able to put your course in, and flip on the flight director and autopilot and fly 'hands off.' At the same time, the most fun I've ever had was flying a super cub at an average of 1000AGL on a cross country. Old school, stick and rudder, few instruments, flying at its purest. Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.

I guess that depends if you're one of the "The journey is more important than the goal folks"...

 

[C420sailor]

It's also nice knowing that you can pick up IFR (legally) if the wx goes to shit on you.

 

[usmarinemike]

It's also nice knowing that you can pick up IFR (legally) if the wx goes to shit on you.

Thats mostly what I was going for. There's nothing stopping me except my conscience. Nobody would ever know except that I would know.

 

[Swanee]

I know what you mean. I was just playing around. I have to agree with you about flying IFR. It is nice to be able to put your course in, and flip on the flight director and autopilot and fly 'hands off.' At the same time, the most fun I've ever had was flying a super cub at an average of 1000AGL on a cross country. Old school, stick and rudder, few instruments, flying at its purest. Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.

Not with an engine it isn't! Nothing like flying a sailplane whether it's ridge, thermal or wave soaring. Plus a ccx in a sailplane is an actual accomplishment.

 

[eas7888]

Not with an engine it isn't! Nothing like flying a sailplane whether it's ridge, thermal or wave soaring. Plus a ccx in a sailplane is an actual accomplishment.

My school offers a course in gliders. . .I never really had the money to throw down for it. I have to say though, I still say that low, slow, and in a cub is the best way to enjoy a relaxing flight

 

[GreenLantern330]

With the exception of trainers, what other aircraft does the Navy fly other than what's listed on their site (F/A-18E/F, F/A-18C, E-2C, EA-18G, SH-60R, CH-60, C-2A)? For example, I know about P-3s, but that's about it.

 

[wlawr005]

60S/B/H/F, E-6, C-9, C-12, C-40/C-130(reserves), F-16/F-5(adversary), and a whole lot more at places like TPS and Fallon.