This caught my eye, "“In 1987 we had the AIM-9P, which was designed to reject flares...". By that time the AIM-9L, which contrary to the lettering was a much more advanced version of the Sidewinder, was in wide service in the USAF and USN.
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This caught my eye, "“In 1987 we had the AIM-9P, which was designed to reject flares...". By that time the AIM-9L, which contrary to the lettering was a much more advanced version of the Sidewinder, was in wide service in the USAF and USN.
Also from Manclark:
""I use the AIM-9P because it is out of the system and I can talk about it. The same thing happened to a lot of things that are still in the system and that I can’t talk about.""
Also the whole point of doing the testing described in the stupid article is to ensure that the missile has a chance to see enemy IRCM before its a shooting war. This enable the nerds to get the test data and go back to the lab and make changes so the missile will work in the real world. So the testing described against actual enemy hardware wasn't a failure but was instead an important learning point. If I was designing a test for a new missile you'd bet I'd want to see it perform against actual IRCM if it were available.
Which says nothing to the fact that no weapon system has a Pk of 1.0 and even if they did they may not have perfect reliability; motors can have issues, fins can get bent, etc.
Agreed.
Theoretically the weapon could still have a Pk of .99 and this was the 0.01 instance - 1 combat shot in this case is not statistically significant.
Embarrassing to the manufacturer of the weapon? Maybe. But 1 single event means nothing by itself, without further investigation of the specifics.
And I say this all without seeing anything or knowing anything about the specific event at hand, other than press reports that a weapon was fired and it reportedly missed the target.
Nuclear bombs? Pretty sure those are guaranteed to get their target.
"Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades and nukes."
Depends on how you define target
They nuked one too.Nah, they thought AIM120s would be a good idea against that in Indepenance day 1...
Nah, they thought AIM120s would be a good idea against that in Indepenance day 1...
AIM 120 and AIM 9. Strange that the aliens could defend against each so well.
That's why you gotta watch the sequel. They're fully up on dissimilar presentations vs aliens.
I thought it was...not "good", but better than it had any right to be.