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USN Showdown between Super Hornet and F-35

jmcquate

Well-Known Member
Contributor
I know most of you folks (see how I didn't use "guys") are aviation centric, but no armor, no bridging.......... does the Corps expect Army support in the expeditionary mission?
 

Hotdogs

Leeroy Jenkins
pilot
I know most of you folks (see how I didn't use "guys") are aviation centric, but no armor, no bridging.......... does the Corps expect Army support in the expeditionary mission?
In short, it doesn't sound like it. The whole premise is based off of expeditionary advanced base operations (EABO) and LOCE. CMC wants to make short-lived multifunctional bases that support naval surface forces then collapse and move with in a 48-72 hour or less period. I've seen a few different COAs on this subject, and I'm skeptical we've seen the final version. I wouldn't take this as a solid product by any stretch of the imagination. Some of these concepts are based on R&D and acquisitions, and we're all aware of how that can be a total goat-rope. I think it's big risk, and may make us relevant in a very very unlikely conflict with the PLAN, but will also diminish are ability to react to more likely scenarios in various GCCs. Several commenters in the WSJ highlighted these issues.
 

Randy Daytona

Cold War Relic
pilot
Super Moderator
Is this all HIMARS? Sounds like a great way to transition old-school artillery into the future fight.
Good question - maybe the new Precision Strike Missile. Perhaps some of the guys with arty backgrounds can chime in.


 

Max the Mad Russian

Hands off Ukraine! Feet too
Gents,

Why Marines neglect Army Stryker family? Due to the fact it's Army? Here in Russia now the epic battle for wheeled tanks is unfolding. The average MBT is expensive and simultaneously expendable as the Ukranian conflict shows. Wheeled machine will probably be cheaper. They are looking for Japanese Type 16 and US gunned Stryker as examples: 50 mph highway cruise speed , air mobility (by Il-76 and An-12), no amphib, low pressured gun of 100-120 mm, armour against 14.5-mm bullets, active protection and so on.
 
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Randy Daytona

Cold War Relic
pilot
Super Moderator
From the Commandant: Force Design 2030


A few notes:
The most logical way to approach divestment is to take a systems perspective and reduce infantry battalions while proportionally reducing the organizations dedicated to supporting these battalions – direct support artillery, ground mobility assets, assault support aviation, light attack aviation, and combat service support capabilities whose capacity is similarly related to the size of the ground and air combat elements to be supported.

FINDINGS IN WHICH I HAVE HIGH CONFIDENCE
  • Divestment of three infantry battalions
  • Investment in additional rocket artillery batteries
  • Divestment of tanks
  • Divestment of three heavy helicopter squadrons
  • Divestment of three medium-lift tiltrotor squadrons
  • Divestment of at least two light attack helicopter squadrons
  • Investment in additional Unmanned Aerial Systems (UAS)
  • Divestment of 2 AA companies and reduction of AAV and Amphibious Combat Vehicle (ACV) requirements
 
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