Good. Although I think most of the nightmare VTUs are due to VTU COs. I am sorry, a VTU CO who treats his people like hardware current SELRES on the bubble have lost it. I had one that tended that way, but he did approve of my rather permanent TDY to Recruiting.We had several folks formally associated with my unit who were VTU types, they didn't have to deal with the NOSC except for a few things.