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NEWS Seahawks Sink Houthi Boats
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I genuinely hope the comms were professional and standardized.
That said, we all know they were like ‘fuck them up, holy shit, rifle away, we just shot some dudes, hell yeah, etc…’
DDG Carney Sailors awarded CAR - and ship received 1000 lbs of BBQ 
Will the Seahawk crews get the same?
www.nationalreview.com
Will the Seahawk crews get the same?
Navy Awards Confirm That U.S. Sailors Were Under Attack in the Red Sea | National Review
So why is the U.S. so hesitant about striking Houthi bases in Yemen?
www.nationalreview.com
There’s been some very funny memes coming out of my fellow jealous skid pilots
No, the CAR is strictly for ground combat. The awards manual says the strike/flight air medal is the aerial equivalent to the CAR.DDG Carney Sailors awarded CAR - and ship received 1000 lbs of BBQ
Navy Awards Confirm That U.S. Sailors Were Under Attack in the Red Sea | National Review
So why is the U.S. so hesitant about striking Houthi bases in Yemen?
DDG Carney Sailors awarded CAR - and ship received 1000 lbs of BBQ
Navy Awards Confirm That U.S. Sailors Were Under Attack in the Red Sea | National Review
So why is the U.S. so hesitant about striking Houthi bases in Yemen?
If true… this is why the Marines and Army laugh at you guys. A CAR for the entire ship? Jesus.
I might be misremembering this, but I think an amphib got one a while ago in similar circumstances in the BAM. Story goes a ribbon happy SNCO very happily ran the EPAR for the entire ACE and had a fun time explaining why to the Fallujah veteran SgtMaj
Why?
If the missile is targeted at the ship (which can take a little figuring out after the fact), everybody is under fire.
Right or wrong, within the Marine Corps explaining that’s how you rated a CAR would be met overwhelmingly with ridicule.
Meh. I get it, but everything can be ridiculed. A Purple Heart can range from horrific death to a graze. The danger exposure for a CAR can range from a horrific IED that kills even a tank to wiping out some dumb shit shooting a machine gun at a tank.
Ships are different because that’s the lowest unit level that gets shot at, endangering the entire crew. If anybody can come up with better eligibility criteria, they’re welcome to fix it.
I mean, it's a great weapon. Though it can be tough to lase in around the water. Lots of considerations. Again, BZ to the crew. They got tapped on the shoulder and executed very well. Make's an MQ-9 bubba shed a tear of joy. At least, that's what I heard from a friend.
Ridicule on what basis? Being shot at with a weapon that could result in significant number of casualties on the platform? If people in a HMMWV get shot at with an RPG and they return fire, would they rate a ridicule-free CAR?
Hey, don’t shoot the messenger. Many (ground side) Marines put tremendous (and often misplaced) stock in the CAR or lack thereof in someone’s stack (you don’t have to dig too deep to find this criticism of Gen Amos). There’s abundant stories of people doing dumb things / exaggerating events to justify rating one. Point is there’s a lot of baggage wrapped around that ribbon, for better or worse. A Marine wearing one earned because his ship took fire (while, let’s be honest, he was chilling in GQ) would be kind of a weird move. I’d personally feel very awkward doing so, but I’m also not gonna begrudge the sailors in this situation getting a little recognition.
As an aside, a big part of this is the perception that “oh it’s just the Houthis”. Shit gets hot elsewhere and I think people will look upon that award criteria with a little more of an open mind.
I don't really know how I feel about this, either way. But for the record, real GQ due to hostile fire, is not super normal. As in nobody was probably "chilling" like they would be during a GQ drill. Don't get me wrong, I love to hate on boat donkeys too, but this might not be the best example of whatever the Marines want to hate about.