Required Training and Qualifications for Reserve Information Warfare Community (IWC) Officers

[bluemarlin04]

Why? You will never use it.

If you MOB you will get the standard Barney Fife familiarization like everyone else. If you are assigned to NR NSW INTEL 17 or 18 you will, prior to deployment (everyone assigned to these units deploys), receive the standard SEAL Team support staff work-up training which is pretty nice and fancy.

Even as an 1830 in NSW, the chances of you ever going anywhere outside the wire or leaving a computer are slim.

There are a few 1830s with certain AQDs that go outside the wire for missions but they are rare and most are active duty at Dam Neck.

 

[bubblehead]

Even as an 1830 in NSW, the chances of you ever going anywhere outside the wire or leaving a computer are slim.

There are a few 1830s with certain AQDs that go outside the wire for missions but they are rare and most are active duty at Dam Neck.

Correct, but you still get the training as a Reservist deploying with a team as a support person.

 

[Markymark]

Why? You will never use it.

If you MOB you will get the standard Barney Fife familiarization like everyone else. If you are assigned to NR NSW INTEL 17 or 18 you will, prior to deployment (everyone assigned to these units deploys), receive the standard SEAL Team support staff work-up training which is pretty nice and fancy.

Bubblehead, question semi on topic. I havent been able to find an answer one way or another, not even my OR knew. Do you know if my weapons qualifications from the army (we get badges not ribbons) transfer over? I qualify expert pretty much every six months on rifle and pistol.

Another question is I see in the questions later on were you and others mention deploing to Iraq ans Afghanistan being pretty rare. Would prior service who already have deployments to Iraq ans Afghanistan, had already been assigned to special forces units and has had the training prior, be more prone to these deployments?

 

[Hair Warrior]

Bubblehead, question semi on topic. I havent been able to find an answer one way or another, not even my OR knew. Do you know if my weapons qualifications from the army (we get badges not ribbons) transfer over? I qualify expert pretty much every six months on rifle and pistol.

You will have to re-qualify. Google which ribbons and medals are authorized for the Navy. Some from your Army service are authorized, some likely aren’t. Marksmanship ribbons are Navy-specific and do not carry over from other branches.

Another question is I see in the questions later on were you and others mention deploing to Iraq ans Afghanistan being pretty rare. Would prior service who already have deployments to Iraq ans Afghanistan, had already been assigned to special forces units and has had the training prior, be more prone to these deployments?

That’s a loaded question. It technically goes off of your pay entry base date (PEBD), but only applies once your MAS code indicates you are PQS qualified (3I1 AQD for 1835). Prior to that, you are non-deployable. And, that can last up to 36 months.

Deployments in general are drawing down. Also, places like Gitmo count as a mob. I wouldn’t worry about it until you are close to getting qual’d.

 

[devilbones]

You will have to re-qualify. Google which ribbons and medals are authorized for the Navy. Some from your Army service are authorized, some likely aren’t. Marksmanship ribbons are Navy-specific and do not carry over from other branches.

That’s a loaded question. It technically goes off of your pay entry base date (PEBD), but only applies once your MAS code indicates you are PQS qualified (3I1 AQD for 1835). Prior to that, you are non-deployable. And, that can last up to 36 months.

Deployments in general are drawing down. Also, places like Gitmo count as a mob. I wouldn’t worry about it until you are close to getting qual’d.

Marksmanship carries over from all branches and certain other federal qualification courses. I had my army pistol and USMC rifle entered, see OPNAVINST 3591.1.

Navy active duty and reserve personnel who qualify on a small arms qualification course with any other branch of the Armed Forces (including Coast Guard) may wear the appropriate Navy ribbon or medal corresponding to that service qualification designation.

 

[bubblehead]

Would prior service who already have deployments to Iraq ans Afghanistan, had already been assigned to special forces units and has had the training prior, be more prone to these deployments?

No. You are another no name nothing Ensign in the sea of butter bars.

Mobilization list is ordered by designator, rank, pay entry base date, and for those who have previously mobilized, by their mob return date.

 

[bluemarlin04]

Another question is I see in the questions later on were you and others mention deploing to Iraq ans Afghanistan being pretty rare. Would prior service who already have deployments to Iraq ans Afghanistan, had already been assigned to special forces units and has had the training prior, be more prone to these deployments?

No one really cares what you did previously.

As a new ENS you need to learn your job and get qualified. Once you are qualified and have a good enough understanding to lead others in Intelligence operations is when you will start to get groomed for deployment.

 

[snake020]

I didn't expect this response...ha.
I knew there wasn't a reason we would need it.... i was just making sure they didn't throw it in there anywhere.
Should i ask about the CS chamber?! ?

Goodness, this is dense. No, you should not ask about being gassed or sprayed in the face with a full can of mace. If you really need it, someone will add it to your qual sheet, and even then you should try and weasel your way out of it.

 

[jiawei309]

The updated instruction is attached. It's the DCO SOP.

The only thing waiverable is the IWBC course.

Thank you for the attachment. That's incredibly helpful!

 

[TheHip585]

Just seeing this thread. Read through the responses and other forums like this - apologies for my naivete but I cannot get clarity on the 1835 training requirements. Letter of Understanding says ODS; IWBC; DIVOLC which are pretty straight-forward. The NIOBC (20 weeks) or the RNIOBC (30 day intensive + 2 week capstone) is where I am confused. Two questions - 1) As reserve DCO no prior service which one would I take? 2) Is the IWBC and DIVOLC (and RNIOBC or NIOBC) all back-to-back in Dam Neck? Or broken up?

Thank you,

 

[Hair Warrior]

Just seeing this thread. Read through the responses and other forums like this - apologies for my naivete but I cannot get clarity on the 1835 training requirements. Letter of Understanding says ODS; IWBC; DIVOLC which are pretty straight-forward. The NIOBC (20 weeks) or the RNIOBC (30 day intensive + 2 week capstone) is where I am confused. Two questions - 1) As reserve DCO no prior service which one would I take? 2) Is the IWBC and DIVOLC (and RNIOBC or NIOBC) all back-to-back in Dam Neck? Or broken up?

Thank you,

I’ll send a PM.

 

[bubblehead]

I can only speak for IP's. You attend Officer Development School (ODS) the first year, and IP Basic the second year.

 

[bryanteagle6]

Im curious if you have an updated letter of understanding or not (im not sure there is one) but....
After you get through the gaining process at your NOSC and do INDOC, you will start to drill at you unit. I would get one set of NWU type iii and some PTUs but nothing else. That is, unless your unit drills in khakis and you have easy access to a NAVY uniform shop. Buy the Black leather boots! (Basic, I4, or flight) Only Black is allowed at ODS - not brown. If you want to pay for 2 different boots then go for the brown, but leave em at home unless they change ODS requirements. I bought brown like everyone else in my unit - and then had to get black leather boots at ODS to wear for 4 days! I was a sailor that prepared for DCOIC and then had to go to ODS. I had all of my uniforms/seabag before I went (i wish i didnt). Remember, some of the active duty ppl you're there with may not even know what a US Navy is - ha - no uniform, no foundation. Go to ODS as soon as you can. Id say the earliest you could swing it is 6 months after commission. I have a lot of other ODS for reserve tips but that isnt what you asked

When i left ODS, DIVOLC was on my FITREP as completed and if not, many NOSCs offer DIVOLC over a weekend drill around the country. I havent heard of anyone going to IWBC for sure. NIOBC is for active duty but some reserve seats are available.
They claim it should look like this:

ODS first year 5 wks
RNIOBC 2nd year 5 wks
Phase II 3rd year 2 wks

But everyone is different. I did an AT before ODS and did another AT earlier this year before RNIOBC. Im not in the DC area where ENSs are running around everywhere!

 

[TheHip585]

@bryanteagle6 and @bubblehead thank you. Most helpful. @Hair Warrior thanks for the PM.

 

[Reservist]

Thank you! Seeing that the reservist side gets less school time but similar course content seemed too good to be true.

There are very few slots open to Reservists (1835's) for the NIOBC Active Duty Course. Like less than five per course and maybe five per year. Even when folks are willing to do the school - the slots are not easy to get and held like a poker hand. I've yet to see a reservist that has asked for the active duty school get a seat.