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Random Griz Aviation Musings

ChuckMK23 said:
Factory new C-182T - flying up to Camp Perry, OH. CAP supporting Army guard partners, using cap aircraft in toi role training air defense gunners who are getting ready to deploy to the NCR. The cap members love this stuff and they make a real contribution and execute super professionally. Northcom loves it! Because the costs are very low as opposed to hiring contractors to fly TOI profiles.

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Do new airplanes smell like new autos?🤔
 
PhrogPhlyer said:
Better!
I once had the privilege to pick up a new C-12R from the factory in Wichita.
Wow is an understatement.
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Independence and similar experience. The all white leather upholstery on the 182/206 is interesting - but the whole interior smells great. The lack of oily smudge on the yoke and engine controls and screens is noticeable too!

Its what you get for $700K

Very little true innovation in piston engine GA - upscale is really Cirrus with their closed eco-system for the owner/operator that "doesn't care what it costs". And of course Cirrus is all about extracting a recurring revenue stream from its owners.

Textron hasn't gotten this bad - yet.

The fit and finish on new Cessna piston aircraft is well below par. They don't even give you a decent tow bar.

GA is out of control cost wise- and outside of professional use, GA is really an activity for rich dudes. Stark contrast to owning a PA-28 Warrior with 4 other guys in 1990's and operating for $30/hour all - in and doing our own routine maintenance and owner assisted Annuals.

GA and Aviation in general is hideously over-regulated in the United States - well beyond what it takes to ensure levels of safety.
 
PhrogPhlyer said:
Way back in the old old days... 1975/76... I was renting a 1932 J-3 cub for $10/hour wet and a 1967 C-152 for $25/hour wet.
Something that even a starving University student could afford.
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At the Navy Norfolk Flying Club we had two former USAF O-2A aircraft that went for $50/tach hr wet. Pretty basic avionics. I believe Navy subsidized the AVGAS. There were former AF T-41 and some light twins - Aztecs I think.
 
USAF HH-53B Pave Low prototype from 1980. Edwards AFB.

I firmly believe the AF is the most innovative and progressively minded and mission oriented when it comes to operating helos...what a great heritage.

and a bad ass looking helicopter!

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ChuckMK23 said:
USAF HH-53B Pave Low prototype from 1980. Edwards AFB.

I firmly believe the AF is the most innovative and progressively minded and mission oriented when it comes to operating helos...what a great heritage.

and a bad ass looking helicopter!

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You didn’t just drink the AF koolaid, you guzzled it. Mission oriented helos, the US Navy MH-60R wins..so many mission strap ons, it’s crazy.
 
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