Dunno... but it's one way to address the pilot shortage. Twice as many bodies running around.Have P-8 ordies invented urban legends of people getting cut in two by the weapons bay doors yet?
Have P-8 ordies invented urban legends of people getting cut in two by the weapons bay doors yet?
“The SecAF and Chief both supported an increase to $60k "pro-pay" (similar to doctor pay) in the FY20 budget. This was not supported by the other services, and thus not supported by OSD and was not put in the budget. The USMC and Navy want to see the results of the increase of the AvB to $35k before supporting additional bonus/pro-pay. The USMC take rate for their fixed wing AvB was 78% last year-- although their bonus is structured differently than the Air Force's.”I know reddit usually gets a bit of hate on here, but here's a relevant AMA from the air force subreddit today
I’m Brig Gen Short, Director of the Aircrew Task Force. Ask me anything!
“The SecAF and Chief both supported an increase to $60k "pro-pay" (similar to doctor pay) in the FY20 budget. This was not supported by the other services, and thus not supported by OSD and was not put in the budget. The USMC and Navy want to see the results of the increase of the AvB to $35k before supporting additional bonus/pro-pay.
“The SecAF and Chief both supported an increase to $60k "pro-pay" (similar to doctor pay) in the FY20 budget. This was not supported by the other services, and thus not supported by OSD and was not put in the budget. The USMC and Navy want to see the results of the increase of the AvB to $35k before supporting additional bonus/pro-pay. The USMC take rate for their fixed wing AvB was 78% last year-- although their bonus is structured differently than the Air Force's.”
What he said. Could they slap on new wings, carve out some of the fuselage and put in a weapons bay? Yea, probably. Likely wouldnt be worth it though. They'd be better off buying them as bounce birds and letting the pilots screw them up through repeatedly crashing them into the ground vice doing it with places that have mission electronics permanently installed...
Good luck. USMC was funded to buy two C-40’s in the current budget and they still fucked it away. Congress: here’s $180+ million, buy two C-40’s to replace your C-9’s in the boneyard. NAVAIR and USMC: Boeing raised the price and we can’t figure it out. Here’s the money back, we have no planes now.That’s actually a great idea. Get a couple -700s or other NG series and use them as bounce and trash haulers for dets.
Funny, it wasn’t that long ago that PERS was telling us that they couldn’t do anything about the bonus because they were stuck playing second fiddle to the AF and that the AF didn’t want to propose raising the bonus.“The SecAF and Chief both supported an increase to $60k "pro-pay" (similar to doctor pay) in the FY20 budget. This was not supported by the other services, and thus not supported by OSD and was not put in the budget. The USMC and Navy want to see the results of the increase of the AvB to $35k before supporting additional bonus/pro-pay. The USMC take rate for their fixed wing AvB was 78% last year-- although their bonus is structured differently than the Air Force's.”
-Brig Gen Short
It’s cool that you can get the straight scoop about your service’s issues by reading a Reddit thread about a different service’s issues.
Sure hope the $10k/year moves the needle...
That’s actually a great idea. Get a couple -700s or other NG series and use them as bounce and trash haulers for dets.
The USMC take rate for their fixed wing AvB was 78% last year
78% of the like 6 dudes in every TMS who were eligible.