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- Thread starter mizzouzk
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Promotion to LTJG and LT are pretty much automatic now at the 2 and 4 year point, respectively, after commissioning, from what I understand. Back in the day, there was a "competitive" selection board for O-3, with something like a 95% + selection rate, but that was done away with some years ago. You have to really screw up to not make it to at least O-3. So yes, an ENS would be winged after making it through flight school before getting promoted to LTJG at the commissioning +2 years point.
Like OnTopTime said, the first two promotions are automatic. Exactly two years after you graduate OCS, you will be a LTJG. Two years after that, you'll be an LT.
Flight training and winging is independent of that, and it takes some designators longer to get winged than others. P-3/P-8 and helo each have a Primary and Advanced phase. Jets/E-2/C-2 adds a tailhook phase, so they take a little longer, and jet guys have a Strike phase on top of all that, so they take longer still. For reference, I'm in the P-3/P-8 pipeline, and I'll get my wings about four months before I promote to LTJG. But like I said, one doesn't affect the other.
Flight training and winging is independent of that, and it takes some designators longer to get winged than others. P-3/P-8 and helo each have a Primary and Advanced phase. Jets/E-2/C-2 adds a tailhook phase, so they take a little longer, and jet guys have a Strike phase on top of all that, so they take longer still. For reference, I'm in the P-3/P-8 pipeline, and I'll get my wings about four months before I promote to LTJG. But like I said, one doesn't affect the other.
If you are in the training squadron or Fleet Replacement Squadron, your admin department will contact you and let you know when the promotion ceremony is taking place (quarters, CO's office, etc) so that you can invite anyone you want. I was promoted to JG while in the FRS in the CO's office.
Let say you were promoted to JG on 16MAY2013, you would be promoted to LT on 01JUN2015.
Close, it's actually 2 years PLUS a few weeks. The promotion takes place the 1st of the month following your previous promotion date.
Let say you were promoted to JG on 16MAY2013, you would be promoted to LT on 01JUN2015.
Also, in the interest of full disclosure, promotion to O-3 is not automatic. There's still a board, it just has a very high select rate. Admittedly I'm too lazy to look, but I wonder if you don't have an updated picture (as an O-2) if it would matter. My guess is no.
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No im going through OCS in january. I had an internship with a retired captain and he was running me through some basic stuff about the Navy and we breifly talked about how promotions worked when he was in, 20 yrs ago, and how competitive it was. He showed me a bunch of reccomendation for promotion papers he had. Pretty intense stuff.
I have yet to get a picture for my file at any rank and they made me a LT. It's all fully qualified officers at this point, as in if you don't have a DUI or other black mark on your record, congratulations! And they do hold people to that- I know a dude who was a LTJG for 3.5 years before he got the paperwork in to show cause for retention. Whether or not he can make O-4, different story.
The O-3 board used to be a competitive promotion board, like what currently exists for O-4, O-5 and O-6 selections, including voting board members, a board precept and "percent to select" targets. That changed a number of years ago, and promotion to O-3 is now managed through a different process, which is described here:
http://www.public.navy.mil/BUPERS-NPC/BOARDS/ACTIVEDUTYOFFICER/03LINE/Pages/default.aspx
So, there is no longer an O-3 "select rate." All fully qualified O-2s will be promoted to O-3. That's what I meant by "pretty much automatic."
I get 'ya. I just was adding that it's not a "check for a pulse" criteria and that someone does actually review a record. DUI? Probably not. Proposition a hooker on your way home from work? Eh, maybe. Crash an AUTEC golf cart into the ocean? You're probably good to go.
The last one sounds like a good story.
Cool story.....I downed a Defensive BFM flight in the T-45 the same day that I promoted to LTJG. So I got two wears of my khakis out of putting them on once 
Maybe not the preferred technique, but not everyone is a natural. Got to the fleet a couple months before promoting to LT, ended up doing an airborne promotion which was pretty cool. My skipper had the lead, and I was flying loose form off him, and he read me the oath while I tried to fly form and repeat over the radio. Am I not really a LT because I didn't raise my right hand? And no I didn't down that flight....
Maybe not the preferred technique, but not everyone is a natural. Got to the fleet a couple months before promoting to LT, ended up doing an airborne promotion which was pretty cool. My skipper had the lead, and I was flying loose form off him, and he read me the oath while I tried to fly form and repeat over the radio. Am I not really a LT because I didn't raise my right hand? And no I didn't down that flight....
To be fair, promotion to CAPT or CDR is still pretty competitive, and maybe arguably LCDR depending on your community. Agreed about the O-3/O-2 realm though......I can't imagine that was every very competitive, even if there was a more formal process. I'll ask my old man, he pinned O-3 in 1962 so that would probably be a good estimation of the history of competitiveness....
By the regs, redoing your oath of office when you're being promoted is optional. It's just kinda cool. All that's really required is that you sign the paperwork accepting the promotion.Cool story.....I downed a Defensive BFM flight in the T-45 the same day that I promoted to LTJG. So I got two wears of my khakis out of putting them on once