I know you get paid as an E-5 during OCS, then as an 0-1 during TBS. Does the time you spend in TBS and flight school count towards the time before you can get a raise? For example, after 2 years, you can make more than an 0-1 with less than 2 years in. If you go to TBS and then flight school, you'd hit the 2 year mark somewhere during that time. Would you be elligible for that raise? Also, can you get promoted during flight school? Thanks
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Yes, you can be promoted during flight school, if you meet the time in grade and time in service. Your time in training counts towards your time in service, so definitely you will be accumulating time towards time and service which mean you will be making more. As a matter of fact i think your time in service starts the day you go to OCS, i am not so sure about that but i know damn well there is somebody on this site that will tell you for sure.
Sorry USMCBebop thats not entirely correct. Your pay entry base date (PEBD) starts when you report to OCS if you do not accept any MCTAP college money. They use your PEBD to decide if you make O-1 over 2, under2 ect. But time in service and time in grade don't start until your commissioning date. You can accept FAP payments without effecting your PEBD but if you recieve MCTAP your BEBD starts when your commissioned. So if you do PLC Juniors/Seniors you could report to TBS an O-1 over 3 technically. Moral of the story, if you don't need MCTAP don't take it you can loose alot of money over your career.
Dustball, you kind of lost me. But if i understand you correctly, what you are saying is that if you get the MCTAP as a PLCiers or any other program then your time in service don't start until you get commissioned, but everyone else when they report to OCS.
Thanks for clearing thing up in here. I used to think that your PEBD start the first date you stepped at jnrs and then you time in grade when you get commissioned, but it looks like this is different from what you are saying.
Thanks for clearing thing up in here. I used to think that your PEBD start the first date you stepped at jnrs and then you time in grade when you get commissioned, but it looks like this is different from what you are saying.
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No, I said if you take MCTAP your PEBD doesn't start until your commissioned but if you don't take it it starts the first day of OCS be it Juniors or combined. As far as time in service and time in grade, no matter what program you do, time in service and time in grade only starts when you are a commissioned officer.
The MCTAP is really a poor option given the fact that if you enter PLC your freshman year, decline MCTAP, you get paid about $500 a month base pay more than your peers who took MCTAP because you are paid with a PEBD thats 3 years old.
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I know O-1's make about $2200 a month. This might be a stupid question, but is that before or after taxes. Cause if that is before taxes thats only about $1500 a month. Obviously nobody joins the Marines for money, but that is still tough. And yes, I know the enlisted make far less. Seems like the military gets the shaft alot doesnt it?
I know O-1's make about $2200 a month. This might be a stupid question, but is that before or after taxes. Cause if that is before taxes thats only about $1500 a month. Obviously nobody joins the Marines for money, but that is still tough. And yes, I know the enlisted make far less. Seems like the military gets the shaft alot doesnt it?
Yes, that is your pre-tax Basic Pay. And yes, we are underpaid. We will ALWAYS be underpaid.
HOWEVER - if you live within your means, and take advantage of the things we don't get shafted on, it is very easy to live a comfortable life. For example, with a few exceptions, the only pay that is taxable is your Basic Pay. Plus, if you serve even one day in a combat area, that entire month's Basic Pay all of a sudden becomes tax-free. It must be noted that many states do not tax servicemen.
Allowances, such as housing, sustenance, clothing, etc. are not taxable. Also, how many organizations will pay for your basic living expenses? If you buy a house, you can put your BAH towards it. All of a sudden, Uncle Sam is paying your mortgage, and you reap all of the benefits!
What if you put money into the Thrift Savings Plan? Well, if you put the maximum of 9% of your base pay into it, your taxable income is lowered by 9%.
Do I need to point out the cost of civilian vs. military health care?
I could go on and on, but the point is this: No, you will not get rich in the military. (As you correctly pointed out, that is not what we are here for!) Just do not use the Basic Pay charts as a gauge of how much you will make. There are numerous tangible benefits available to servicemembers that are worth investigating before you make your decision to seek a commission.
HOWEVER - if you live within your means, and take advantage of the things we don't get shafted on, it is very easy to live a comfortable life. For example, with a few exceptions, the only pay that is taxable is your Basic Pay. Plus, if you serve even one day in a combat area, that entire month's Basic Pay all of a sudden becomes tax-free. It must be noted that many states do not tax servicemen.
Allowances, such as housing, sustenance, clothing, etc. are not taxable. Also, how many organizations will pay for your basic living expenses? If you buy a house, you can put your BAH towards it. All of a sudden, Uncle Sam is paying your mortgage, and you reap all of the benefits!
What if you put money into the Thrift Savings Plan? Well, if you put the maximum of 9% of your base pay into it, your taxable income is lowered by 9%.
Do I need to point out the cost of civilian vs. military health care?
I could go on and on, but the point is this: No, you will not get rich in the military. (As you correctly pointed out, that is not what we are here for!) Just do not use the Basic Pay charts as a gauge of how much you will make. There are numerous tangible benefits available to servicemembers that are worth investigating before you make your decision to seek a commission.
It will even out once you get some years under your belt. My DH is at 186 now and when he is commissioned he will be making about $3200.00 with base pay and comrats. That is 0-1E pay with 6 years. He has been in 7 this August. Next August he will get a $500.00 raise. Plus like the other posters said, medical and housing make up the difference.
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