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Officers Sabers

FlyingBeagle

Registered User
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I actually have two swords: one from my family and one from my unit. By the way, when you do get a sword don't forget the sword knot.
I agree with Skidkid, the sword is one of the coolest mementos of your naval service. I wish we wore them more and that the Navy required everyone to have one like the Marines do.
 

gregsivers

damn homeowners' associations
pilot
I got issued one as an award in ROTC, but probably would've bought one on my own. They are pretty neat to have, and I plan on making a display with my Norwich saber somehow.
 

zab1001

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On the other side of this whole "buy a sword" discussion...odds are as a Navy JO you won't need one for quite awhile. If you decide to wait until you actually need one, there are plenty of people to borrow from for weddings (local NROTC units are usually cool about loaning them out). You MAY need one for a squadron change of command, but most likely not, and again, you can borrow one.

I didn't pick one up until I was required to have one for this PEP billet. I NEVER had a requirement for one before that. Make sure you check ebay or something similar, I picked up a brand new sword for a little over 200 bucks. Got the belt for about 40.

Yes, they look cool and it's a nice memento, but you really won't NEED it.

As far as wishing we all had to have them and we had to use them more, that just means one more day off the flight schedule and out of a bag. Fvck that.
 

wink

War Hoover NFO.
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This was corrected by the numerous references in this thread, but to be precise, they are not sabers, but swords. The edged weapons that appear on the enlisted surface warfare pin are cutlasses. In the days of sail, enlisted crew used a cutlass and officers swords. I do believe when the Air Farce tries to look all military like they use sabers. Is it still true that the only enlisted military personel to be authorized a sword are USMC NCOs?
 

gaijin6423

Ask me about ninjas!
It is, wink. And it's the old version of the Army officer sword.

Our swords are, in fact, sabers, though. Specifically, they are cavalry sabers, which can generally be identified by the curving blade. This design is supposedly easier to draw on horseback, although I've never tried. In addition, the curved design adds to the cutting (read: destructive) power of the blade when used properly.
 

TheBubba

I Can Has Leadership!
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My only gripe with the sword is that the handle is made of plastic that tries to look like shark/skate skin. I would love to get some real skate skin on there, but don't know if something like that is possible.

If you're willing to shell out 1G for a Wilkinson Sword. Of the three major makers of military swords that I know of, Wilkinson is the best... best blade, most comfortable hilt, and its not made of cheap plastic. Its the heaviest sword, but its a good investment. (My sword is a Wilkinson)

For y'all Marines out there, this is the first year that the Marines has authorized Wilkinson swords.

Like I said... expensive, but worth the investment.


www.wilkinson.com
 

AllAmerican75

FUBIJAR
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That link is for some doctor's personal website. Just thought I'd let you know.Wilkinson Swords
I just googled "Wilkinson Swords" and it was the first thing that came up. Looks like they went out of business anyway. That sucks because it looks like they make a fine product.
 

highlyrandom

Naval Aviator
pilot
So the Queen's own sword makers went out of business? Dang. Anyway don't forget about cutlasses, which were authorized for senior Navy NCOs...sure, that no longer applies, but before the Marines here go off on a "look how warlike we are compared to the Navy" tangent, you know.
 

highlyrandom

Naval Aviator
pilot
Oh and Navy or Marine, if you don't basically know how to fight with it, then you shouldn't wear it except as a wedding backdrop. Sure, your forefathers earned the right to de da de da de da ...but at least take a one-hour intro to epee fencing, before we start talking about having swords as "warriors."
 

skidkid

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There is a picture from the assualt on Hue city where a Marine Lt had his mamaluke on his gear and I believe used it, pretty damn sure he never took fencing.

I love the motivation of 2ndLts
 

gaijin6423

Ask me about ninjas!
Fencing? FENCING??? Please. We covered that in the MCMAP intro course. We're up to samurai swords (next FY), ninja exploding powders (rumored to be authorized FY2007), and those badass knife hand things from 'Enter the Dragon' (still in development). Of course, all must be purchased from USMC authorized sources, and the prerequisite instruction and sustainment training must be completed prior to their wearing. And they all come in patented USMC stylized 'flava'.
 

Brett327

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Oh and Navy or Marine, if you don't basically know how to fight with it, then you shouldn't wear it except as a wedding backdrop. Sure, your forefathers earned the right to de da de da de da ...but at least take a one-hour intro to epee fencing, before we start talking about having swords as "warriors."
Reality check: It's an ornamental/ceremonial device. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if you have to resort to swordfighting (and just happen to be in your dress uniform), you're having a really, really, really bad day - especially if you're a Sailor.

Brett
 

skidkid

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Reality check: It's an ornamental/ceremonial device. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if you have to resort to swordfighting (and just happen to be in your dress uniform), you're having a really, really, really bad day - especially if you're a Sailor.

Brett


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Yeah sword drill is about the most challenging thing you will do wiht that thing, try not to cut your ear, yes it can happen.
 
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