Does the Navy 108a Intelligence ever change? I have a bachelors degree in history and masters of research degree in Russian and Eastern European Studies from the University of Glasgow. I am trying to join Naval Intelligence, but I’ve taken the OAR twice and my highest score has been 30 so it’s not waiverable. Any advice (besides enlisted route than officer)?
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No waiverable OAR
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exNavyOffRec
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Yes, in the past they gave a set number for OAR, GPA and other items and there was no waiver at all, they they became a bit flexible, however the lowest I have ever seen them go on an OAR is 35.
Going enlisted will not help, the OAR requirement is still there for enlisted.
Going enlisted will not help, the OAR requirement is still there for enlisted.
exNavyOffRec
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If you are waiting for the requirement to change to go down to 30 you will be waiting for something that isn't going to arrive, your best bet is to study and get a qualifying OAR.
Great advice from @exNavyOffRec. Speaking of the ASTB, what did you study? How hard did you study? It matters. Head on over to the ASTB sub-forum. Lots of folks before you have successfully navigated the ASTB and there is lots of study advice. If you seriously want to get a great score on the ASTB (OAR), then study your ass off, and retake it. But make sure you are ready for your last (and final) ASTB re-take. Good luck.
FormerRecruitingGuru
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You’re going to have to improve that score. Use the forum to find OAR study info, perhaps you’re not studying hard or not studying the right things at all.
OAR = Officer Aptitude Rating. Maybe you're not quite yet what the Navy's looking for, all of your academic credentials notwithstanding? File this under "tough love". Or disregard...
Thank you. I definitely think this it. I don’t test well, even in college, I have always been a writer/researcher and I think I’ve wanted to join the navy for a long time, but I am just not absorbing the information that I need in order to improve. My second attempt at the OAR I did even worse, but studied harder. I used the mometrix to study. Thank you for the comment.
Average Monke
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Which sections are you struggling on most? Given your background, I would assume math and mechanical comprehension rather than reading comp no?
Yes for those two sections. The understanding of mechanical comprehension, the studying for that was not helpful at all. The book went over newtons laws and other concepts, but I remember one of the questions on the test was “what is the average voltage of a house in the US”?
Average Monke
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That's an odd ball question. I would strongly recommend not relying on the practice test books to learn/review the topics covered on the test. They will provide you will a basic overview, but they limited in scope and depth. Their greatest value, in my opinion, is the practice test section and the answer explanations.
You can find an entire thread dedicated to the ASTB/OAR here. There are links to the several study guides people have used to achieve very high scores. Khan Academy and The Organic Chemistry Tutor are some of the best resources online. Hiring a tutor is also an option, but really it's just about putting in the work to study.
Hire a tutor. Have them teach you what you need to know for the test.