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NAVY NWU Type 2 and Type 3 - MarPat Style Desert and Woodland for NSW

ChuckMK23

FERS and TSP contributor!
pilot
The Soldier Systems Blog as a pretty interesting article on the new Navy NWU digital camo MarPat style uniforms for the Naval Special Warfare community - along with the NAVADMIN msg that authorizes wear....

http://soldiersystems.net/2010/01/01/aor-comes-out-of-the-closet/

UNCLASSIFIED//

ROUTINE

R 291203Z DEC 09

BT
UNCLAS
FM CNO WASHINGTON DC//N1//
TO NAVADMIN
NAVADMIN 374/09

MSGID/GENADMIN/CNO WASHINGTON DC/N1/DEC//

SUBJ/NAVY WORKING UNIFORM TYPE II AND III//

REF/A/MSG/CNO WASHINGTON DC/262243Z JUN 09//

REF/B/DOC/NAVPERS 15665I/01JAN2003//

NARR/REF A IS NAVADMIN 188/09. REF B IS U.S. NAVY UNIFORM REGULATIONS.//

RMKS/1. THIS NAVADMIN ANNOUNCES CHIEF OF NAVAL OPERATIONS APPROVAL OF THE NAVY WORKING UNIFORM (NWU) TYPE II AND III. THE NWU COLORING SCHEMES CONSIST OF TWO UNIQUE FOUR-SHADED DIGITAL CAMOUFLAGE PROFILES (DESERT AND WOODLAND) DEVELOPED BY NAVAL SPECIAL WARFARE (NSW) UNDER THE AUTHORITY AND GUIDANCE OF UNITED STATES SPECIAL OPERATIONS COMMAND FOR NSW AND MARITIME SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCES. THE TACTICAL ADVANTAGE PROVIDED BY NWU TYPE II (DESERT) AND TYPE III (WOODLAND) DIGITAL PATTERNS WILL INCREASE PROBABILITY OF MISSION SUCCESS AND SURVIVABILITY IN COMBAT AND IRREGULAR WARFARE OPERATIONS DUE TO THE REDUCED VISUAL SIGNATURE IN THESE OPERATIONAL ENVIRONMENTS.

2. THE NWU TYPE II AND III ARE OF UNISEX DESIGN AND INCLUDES THE NAVY’S LOGO ANCHOR CONSTITUTION EAGLE (ACE) DESIGN IN THE PRINT OF THE FABRIC. THE NWU TYPE II AND III WILL UNDERGO CONFORMANCE TESTING DURING 2010 TO VALIDATE DESIGN, FIT, AND WEAR. A PHASED FLEET DISTRIBUTION WILL COMMENCE ONCE CONFORMANCE TESTING IS COMPLETE WITH PRIORITY DISTRIBUTION TO DEPLOYING COMBAT AND DIRECT COMBAT SUPPORT COMMANDS AND UNITS.

3. OCCASION FOR WEAR:
A. THE NWU TYPE II WILL BE WORN ONLY BY NAVY SPECIAL WARFARE (NSW) PERSONNEL, SAILORS ASSIGNED TO NSW UNITS, OR SAILORS ASSIGNED TO UNITS DIRECTLY SUPPORTING NSW MISSIONS WITHIN THE THEATER OF OPERATIONS. IN THE CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES, THE NWU TYPE II WILL ONLY BE WORN BY THE AFOREMENTIONED AUTHORIZED PERSONNEL ON TRAINING RANGES OR DURING ACTUAL OPERATIONS REQUIRING A DESERT CAMOUFLAGE UNIFORM. ALL OTHER COMMANDS AND INDIVIDUALS REQUIRING THE WEAR OF DESERT CAMOUFLAGE UNIFORMS WILL CONTINUE TO WEAR THE CURRENT TRI-COLOR DESERT CAMOUFLAGE UTILITY UNIFORM.
B. THE NWU TYPE III WILL REPLACE THE EXISTING TRI-COLORED WOODLAND CAMOUFLAGE UTILITY UNIFORM AND WILL BE THE STANDARD CAMOUFLAGE UNIFORM WORN IN CONUS AND CAN BE WORN DEPLOYED AS PRESCRIBED BY COMBATANT COMMANDERS. OCCASION FOR WEAR OF THE NWU TYPE III WILL BE THE SAME AS THE CURRENT WOODLAND CAMOUFLAGE UTILITY UNIFORM PER REF A, COMMANDS AND SAILORS CURRENTLY AUTHORIZED TO WEAR THE WOODLAND CAMOUFLAGE UTILITY UNIFORM (CUU) WILL CONTINUE TO WEAR THE CUU AS THEIR PRIMARY DAILY UNIFORM UNTIL THEIR TRANSITION TO THE NEW NWU TYPE III.
C. CNIC NAVY SECURITY FORCE SAILORS, TO INCLUDE AUXILIARY SECURITY FORCES AND RESERVE SECURITY FORCES, WILL WEAR NWU TYPE I (BLUE/GREY/BLACK) UNLESS ASSIGNED TO NSW COMMANDS AS OUTLINED IN PARAGRAPH 3A.

4. BASIC NWU TYPE II AND III COMPONENTS INCLUDE BROWN COTTON UNDERSHIRT, BLACK BOOT SOCKS, BLOUSING STRAPS, NAVY CERTIFIED DESERT TAN OR BROWN BRUSHLESS BOOTS, 1 1/4 INCH BLACK COTTON, NYLON OR ELASTIC WOVEN WEB BELT WITH BLACK TIP AND BLACK OPEN FACE BUCKLE OR 1 3/4 INCH WIDE BLACK OR TAN ONE PIECE ADJUSTABLE NYLON WEBBING RIGGERS BELT WITH FORGED STEEL BUCKLE,D-RING AND HOOK AND LOOP FASTENER, EIGHT POINT UTILITY CAP, UNISEX BLOUSE AND TROUSERS, EMBROIDERED COLLAR DEVICES (E4 AND ABOVE), SERVICE AND NAME TAPE.

5. PRESCRIBED NWU TYPE II AND III COMPONENTS INCLUDE MATCHING PATTERN WATERPROOF AND BREATHABLE FABRIC PARKA WITH REMOVABLE TAN FLEECE LINER AND SLIP ON RANK INSIGNIA FOR EXTREME COLD WEATHER SYSTEM (ECWS) PARKAS AND BLACK KNIT WATCH CAP.

6. OPTIONAL COMPONENTS INCLUDE SMOOTH BLACK LEATHER BOOTS, BROWN BOOT SOCKS, EARMUFFS (WITH OUTER-GARMENTS ONLY), EARRINGS (GOLD BALL FOR FEMALE E7 AND ABOVE AND SILVER BALL FOR FEMALE E6 AND BELOW), AND BLACK LEATHER GLOVES.

7. MANNER OF WEAR: THE MANNER OF WEAR OF THE NWU TYPE II AND III WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT CAMOUFLAGE UTILITY UNIFORMS (DESERT AND WOODLAND) AS OUTLINED IN REF B. THE NWU TYPE II AND III WILL BE PROCURED AND ISSUED AS ORGANIZATIONAL CLOTHING AND WILL REMAIN THE PROPERTY OF THE ISSUING COMMAND.

8. PROGRAM MANAGEMENT AND TECHNICAL AUTHORITY FOR THE NWU TYPE II AND III IS ASSIGNED TO NAVAL FACILITIES ENGINEERING COMMAND (NAVFAC). PROGRAM MANAGER AND TECHNICAL AUTHORITY FOR THE DIGITAL CAMOUFLAGE PATTERNS IS ASSIGNED TO PROGRAM MANAGER SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCES SURVIVAL, SUPPORT AND EQUIPMENT SYSTEMS (PM-SOF SSES), US ARMY SOLDIER SYSTEMS CENTER, NATICK AS DIRECTED BY NSW. DISTRIBUTION AUTHORITY OF THE NWU TYPE II IS ASSIGNED TO COMMANDER, NAVAL SPECIAL WARFARE COMMAND. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING AVAILABILITY AND DISTRIBUTION OF THE NWU TYPE II AND III WILL BE ANNOUNCED VIA FUTURE NAVADMIN.

9. FILE THIS NAVADMIN UNTIL CHANGES ARE INCORPORATED INTO THE QUARTERLY BUPERS DIRECTIVE CD-ROM CHANGE CONTAINING REF A. IN THE INTERIM, FOR MORE INFORMATION ON UNIFORMS AND UNIFORM POLICY, VISIT THE NAVY UNIFORM MATTERS WEBSITE AT HTTP://WWW.NPC.NAVY.MIL/COMMANDSUPPORT/USNAVYUNIFORMS/.

10. POINTS OF CONTACTS:
Edited for PERSEC

11. RELEASED BY VADM MARK FERGUSON, N1.//
 

TheBubba

I Can Has Leadership!
None
So what about Expeditionary Navy? I.E. Prowler squadrons deploying to OIF, P-3 dude in the mideast and certain IA sailors? That group currently wears DCUs. Do they get to wear the desert NWU? They are deployed to a desert environment and in the Navy...
 

Scoob

If you gotta problem, yo, I'll be part of it.
pilot
Contributor
so what about expeditionary navy? I.e. Prowler squadrons deploying to oif, p-3 dude in the mideast and certain ia sailors? That group currently wears dcus. Do they get to wear the desert nwu? They are deployed to a desert environment and in the navy...
Read, and ye shall find.
NAVADMIN said:
3.B. All other commands and individuals requiring the wear of desert camouflage uniforms will continue to wear the current tri-color desert camouflage utility uniform.
 

phrogdriver

More humble than you would understand
pilot
Super Moderator
Why not just make this NWU the field camouflage uniform? Now you're just proliferating uniforms. Aquaflage, standard desert camo, NWU II/III.
 

Scoob

If you gotta problem, yo, I'll be part of it.
pilot
Contributor
Because there's no better way for a SEAL to hide than to give him his own, distinct uniform.
 

Gatordev

Well-Known Member
pilot
Site Admin
Contributor
Why not just make this NWU the field camouflage uniform? Now you're just proliferating uniforms. Aquaflage, standard desert camo, NWU II/III.

No, no, no. We're consolidating uniforms to make the seabag smaller. Four is quite obviously smaller than two.
 

Gatordev

Well-Known Member
pilot
Site Admin
Contributor
What I've never been clear about is why Navy IAs don't wear their wings on ACUs. I know the instruction says not to wear badges, but "badges" is an Army term and I wouldn't call your warfare qualification a "badge." Just seems like you're even more out of uniform not wearing your wings than you already are, what w/ wearing the ACUs. No doubt a "one size fits all" rule. I'm pretty sure the Army guys wear their wings in ACUs.
 

Jim123

DD-214 in hand and I'm gonna party like it's 1998
pilot
What I've never been clear about is why Navy IAs don't wear their wings on ACUs. I know the instruction says not to wear badges, but "badges" is an Army term and I wouldn't call your warfare qualification a "badge." Just seems like you're even more out of uniform not wearing your wings than you already are, what w/ wearing the ACUs. No doubt a "one size fits all" rule. I'm pretty sure the Army guys wear their wings in ACUs.

I'm pretty sure that between the AR 670-1 (Army uniform regs) and the one or two NAVADMINs that cover Navy personnel wearing other service uniforms split this into two cases- garrison and deployed. In garrison as a Navy guy wearing an Army uniform you can wear your wings, but when deployed the "bling" is up to the local commander (ie. probably not gonna happen). When I was in Iraq a couple years ago wearing ACUs I didn't wear my wings. I didn't spend that much time on bases where there was an aviation element either so I can't remember what the Army pilots actually did... anybody else?
 

pourts

former Marine F/A-18 pilot & FAC, current MBA stud
pilot
If you look at the latest updates on the Soldier Systems Blog - there is a lot of discussion about the new NWU patterns just being MARPAT - they are completely different patterns...

http://soldiersystems.net/2010/01/03/aor-is-not-marpat/

If you need to post a picture of the two side by side to prove they are completely different, then they are not completely different.

First you steal our Chucks and throw black pants on them, then our digis, what next, a blood stripe on your SDBs? ;)
 

Scoob

If you gotta problem, yo, I'll be part of it.
pilot
Contributor
I didn't spend that much time on bases where there was an aviation element either so I can't remember what the Army pilots actually did... anybody else?

I seem to recall having difficulty sniffing out the green aviators in the JOC on Bagram, so they must not wear anything on their ACUs - besides, it goes completely against the Ranger mentality to let anyone else wear something special on their uniform.
 

Flash

SEVAL/ECMO
None
Super Moderator
Contributor
I seem to recall having difficulty sniffing out the green aviators in the JOC on Bagram, so they must not wear anything on their ACUs - besides, it goes completely against the Ranger mentality to let anyone else wear something special on their uniform.

Must be a deployment thing, Army types wear their badges in DC. Like Jim123 said for us, they may have different rules for different places.
 
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