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My thoughts on flight school
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46Driver
"It's a mother beautiful bridge, and it's gon
towbubba said:
HMMT-164 is the RAG (Actually the FRS unless they have changed it.) Time to get serious because you now have Marines in the back whose lives depend on you in the front - especially when something goes wrong, like maybe losing an engine at 200 ft, at night, off the ship, with 12 grunts in the back. I'm sure PhrogDriver can add his unpleasant experiences, but you as an assault pilot are responsible for not only yourself but also the Marines aboard. Your primary mission is still the same: support that LCPL rifleman on the ground.
If you still want a Cobra 10 years from now, you can always join the Reserves and be crosstrained into a skid squadron. I have friends who have done it and been to Afghanistan twice in the Whiskey.
To both you and E5B, congratulations on your hard earned "Wings of Gold". Welcome to the club.
towbubba
boot 46 pilot
Cobras east, west and huey east, west. Oki seems like some fun but I have some potential mitigating family medical issues and that is placing a cloud over the whole island experience. If moma was happier it would be easier to swallow. Much of it would be easier if the Corps hadn't taken two Oki slots this time and only one skid slot this week. But in the end if I would have tried harder I could have been number one instead of two.......It is the same Corps wide now BE NUMBER ONE, THERE IS NO CONSOLATION PRIZE FOR SECOND PLACE!Physicx said:
46Driver
"It's a mother beautiful bridge, and it's gon
Your odds of getting into a Cobra now on active duty are about the same as getting struck by lightening - forget about it. The active duty Marine Corps is not going to pay the money for you to switch airframes just because you want to. The Reserves are a different animal. They generally need pilots in every squadron and will cross-train you into a different airframe if there is money available.
As for safety, I have seen crashes of every airframe: Phrogs and Cobras are pretty much neck and neck. My squadron actually had a mid-air between a Phrog and Cobra back in 1996 - killed 14 including friends of mine flying the AH.
The one thing you have to remember now is not to mention how much you wanted Cobras or Hueys - that will not go over well in a Phrog squadron anymore than the opposite would either. Be open to the experience - you are going to have to work on your formation skills above all because that will be your bread and butter. Flights of 4, one rotor apart, into LZ's. You may not believe it, but you will have a good time with the stick and rudder - as well as managing the collective (we don't have those big shocks on the mainmounts for nothing.....)
Remember, you are part of one big team: Cobra pilot, 46 mechanic, infantry officer, logistics SNCO - it all moves together as one - and dependent on how well you perform your assigned role.
As for safety, I have seen crashes of every airframe: Phrogs and Cobras are pretty much neck and neck. My squadron actually had a mid-air between a Phrog and Cobra back in 1996 - killed 14 including friends of mine flying the AH.
The one thing you have to remember now is not to mention how much you wanted Cobras or Hueys - that will not go over well in a Phrog squadron anymore than the opposite would either. Be open to the experience - you are going to have to work on your formation skills above all because that will be your bread and butter. Flights of 4, one rotor apart, into LZ's. You may not believe it, but you will have a good time with the stick and rudder - as well as managing the collective (we don't have those big shocks on the mainmounts for nothing.....)
Remember, you are part of one big team: Cobra pilot, 46 mechanic, infantry officer, logistics SNCO - it all moves together as one - and dependent on how well you perform your assigned role.
Physicx said:
Wrong! There was only 1 skid slot this past winging, and 2 the time before that. I think someone is passing that propaganda to get more Navy volunteers, then once it got passed on AW.com all the college and high school kiddies took it as gospel.
Once again, don't believe anything you hear until you see it first hand.
I am surprised on how few slots were open because we are kind of short. My squadron needs about 4 or 5 new RACs to roudns us out. I feel for you Towbubba but I would be curious to see what you thought in a year. If you have family medical issues you mat be able to swap to an East or West coast slot. I dont want to give you false hope so take this for what it is worth I had friends who swapped slots 46 west for Cobra East due to a divorce and some mitigating factors but the best way not to get a break like that is to vetn this stuff anywhere student control can hear. Stay positive and keep your ear open, if you can stick around Whiting unitl the next winging class you might be able to (very small chance) work something but stay positive. Like I said earlier you can do a FAC tour and blow sh!t up and do out your time with the Grunts then look at the reserves.
There are people who would give their left nut to be a winged Marine Aviatior and sometimes things happen for a reason.
Good luck wahtever happens
There are people who would give their left nut to be a winged Marine Aviatior and sometimes things happen for a reason.
Good luck wahtever happens
Navy Helo crossovers....
I just finished primary here in Corpus with VT-28. There's a "memo" of sorts detailing the request for Navy SNA's to crossover and fly helos. In the meetings the squadrons have had with perspective crossovers, the Navy bubbas are being told they will be guaranteed Hueys or Cobras. So I can't imagine why there wouldn't be more slots out there if they are looking to the Navy to fix the lack of pilots.
And as a side note, the Marine jet draft that was going on during the Fall of 2004 appears to finally be over. Marines who have NSS's of 55 are getting sent to Florida for helos.
Physicx said:
I just finished primary here in Corpus with VT-28. There's a "memo" of sorts detailing the request for Navy SNA's to crossover and fly helos. In the meetings the squadrons have had with perspective crossovers, the Navy bubbas are being told they will be guaranteed Hueys or Cobras. So I can't imagine why there wouldn't be more slots out there if they are looking to the Navy to fix the lack of pilots.
And as a side note, the Marine jet draft that was going on during the Fall of 2004 appears to finally be over. Marines who have NSS's of 55 are getting sent to Florida for helos.
towbubba
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According to someone who checked in last week to HMT-303 the folks there say they NEED Cobra guys. In fact they said they're hurting since there's only been 1 pilot per week for a month and didn't sound like that was enough. Of course they don't know it yet but they're only getting one out of my class too.E5B said:
towbubba
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Thanks for the advice I think I will impliment it but I didn't know stucon monitored this forum. You may talk to me in a year and I bet I will be doing fine plugging away at my quals but I will always wish I got that Cobra slot. I have so many other hurdles to jump getting my family to Oki and trying to make moma comfy, not to mention a whole new a/c and mindset to learn which is always interesting and now I can finally understand how a frog pedal turns, it's been a longtime question. :icon_wink
Broadsword2004
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46Driver said:
Just a little confused here, but won't the Corps let you change aircraft if they need someone to fly the particular aircraft you want to change to? I ask because isn't it cheaper to train someone who is already a pilot in a new airframe, if a pilot is needed, rather than train a total newbie for it? Also, I have read of people who changed, so I am confused.
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