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Mishap on film

ip568

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Subject: FW: Just jump in and Go, no Preflight done

This is tough to watch.

An excellent reminder that there really are good reasons to do a thorough preflight and to make sure the controls are free.

This happened just north of Winnipeg, and the aircraft was the first version with PT-6-67 Turboprops. The Canadian DOT concluded that the control locks were still locked when the aircraft took off.

Those who have flown the Caribou may wonder how that could have happened when it is physically impossible to advance the throttles with the lock on - but this aircraft was being modified (still restricted category) and the throttle quadrant was not properly rigged to accommodate the throttle levers for the turbine engines.

Three people were on board; two test pilots and an engineer.

http://www.navlog.org/DH4planecrash.wmv
 

kmac

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Why did you post a computer animation posing to be a plane crash?
 

squeeze

Retired Harrier Dude
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"Life is tough. It's tougher (shorter) if you're stupid"
 

ChuckMK23

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unfortunetly real

Are the control locks on this aircarft in the cockpit or physically on the control surfaces?
 

ChuckMK23

FERS and TSP contributor!
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Which just goies to9 show that it's the basic things that get people killed. Sittikng there wringing your hands on whether a sight gauge should be 1/2 full or 3/4 full or whether it's 3 or 4 inches of oleo that should be showing and missing that the rotor blades were still tied down or control locks in place is just stupid. Do a 360 complete walk around your aircraft and make sute all the pieces are there, latches closed and control surfaces free, tie downs removed - make sure there is sufficient gas to get where you are going and you'll live forever.

Leave the detail preflight stuff to the maintenance guys - it was inane that we used to crawl as a crew all over a '46 with screw drivers and open up every conceivable compartment/cover after the maintenance guys buttoned it all up. Looking for safety wire and torque stripes is not a good use of time and just puts stress on the fasteners and hinges from needless opening.
 

BigIron

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Do a 360 complete walk around your aircraft and make sute all the pieces are there, latches closed and control surfaces free, tie downs removed - make sure there is sufficient gas to get where you are going and you'll live forever.

Leave the detail preflight stuff to the maintenance guys - it was inane that we used to crawl as a crew all over a '46 with screw drivers and open up every conceivable compartment/cover after the maintenance guys buttoned it all up. Looking for safety wire and torque stripes is not a good use of time and just puts stress on the fasteners and hinges from needless opening.

Takes us about 1/2 hour to 45 mins to do a thorough preflight on the 53. Can't tell you how many times we still find downers from a freshly performed D&T. It's the little things that will kill you, but unfortunately with this mishap, sometimes the obvious will.
 

Fly Navy

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Takes us about 1/2 hour to 45 mins to do a thorough preflight on the 53. Can't tell you how many times we still find downers from a freshly performed D&T. It's the little things that will kill you, but unfortunately with this mishap, sometimes the obvious will.

Thank god for the T-45.... a couple minutes at best.
 
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