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Grant
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Most of the A/A+ are trapped out by now, from what I've heard. I know that before VFA-201 was called up and carrier deployed a few years ago, they had to trade out their aircraft, because most (if not all) werent good to go for the boat.
Thats why they are mainly flown by reserve squadrons nowadays.
Thats why they are mainly flown by reserve squadrons nowadays.
Clux4
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Grant said:
That is the same thing I am thinking. I thought the airframe was too weak to make the boat, considering the many stresses they have on their airframe. Some of the ones that decommissioned VMFA 321 had are now on sticks, in museums or on some range somewhere.
On the green side, there are only 3 Reserve Squadrons and 1 A.D that use the A's in anycase.
122 flies F/A-18C'shendogg311 said:
i'm 99% sure that the F/A-18A+ did not get the -402 motors ... what they got was the APG-73, a new MU (i don't know what they call it, we call it a "brick" - has all the data loaded onto it from TAMPS), they got AIM-120, GPS ... i think that's all the big stuff they got ... they didn't upgrade to the MPCD and they don't have a color moving map, they still have the analog (steam gauge) IFEI panal (engine instruments), and they still have LOX not OBOGS. A+'s are around 1500# lighter than the C/D which equates to more fuel/bring back at the boat ... and it helps them out in BFM being lighter (more T-W). i've flown A,A+,B,C,D, and in my opinion, i would have to say a Lot 18 F/A-18C is a better Hornet than the A+, but an A+ is better than an early Lot C (small motors & old radar) as well as better than a D (more gasFly Navy said:
)not really true for the Marine Corps ... our Hornets haven't been to the boat nearly as much as the Navy's. most of the Navy's C's are trapped out, so they have been trading with the Marine Corps for their A/A+'s. as a matter of fact, most of the Corps C's are trapped out because they are hand-me-downs from the Navy.Grant said:
though i know of one that went to Quantico for the museum, i'm pretty sure the rest of 321's jets are getting modded to A+ and are being used to replace jets in the fleet that are crashing. also, there are 2 AD Marines A+ squadrons, soon to be more ... Marine reserve A/A+'s have less trap life than any of the Hornets in the fleet.Clux4 said:
skid, nice one, i saw it ... i didn't want to say anything though.skidkid said:
congrates Squeeze
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jarhead said:i'm 99% sure that the F/A-18A+ did not get the -402 motors ... what they got was the APG-73, a new MU (i don't know what they call it, we call it a "brick" - has all the data loaded onto it from TAMPS), they got AIM-120, GPS ... i think that's all the big stuff they got ... they didn't upgrade to the MPCD and they don't have a color moving map, they still have the analog (steam gauge) IFEI panal (engine instruments), and they still have LOX not OBOGS. A+'s are around 1500# lighter than the C/D which equates to more fuel/bring back at the boat ... and it helps them out in BFM being lighter (more T-W). i've flown A,A+,B,C,D, and in my opinion, i would have to say a Lot 18 F/A-18C is a better Hornet than the A+, but an A+ is better than an early Lot C (small motors & old radar) as well as better than a D (more gas
Thanks for the info. As for the motors, I've had multiple people experienced in the Hornets (such as yourself) say that A = light plane, small motors and A+ = light plane, big motors.
Grant
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Damn yall, my bad. I said "most", not all. I've been told by an reserve NFO that most A/A+ are trapped out, even the Marine Corps birds. The reason being, that the Navy flew them, then when they'd get to their limit, they would trade out with Marine squadrons for their "good" aircraft. They did this because the Marines dont go to the boat all that often, so they dont really need aircraft that have traps left in them. Particularly the Marine Reserve squadrons, which almost never practice traps.
Granted, this is all second-hand info... but its from an NFO (former Tomcat guy), so who knows... maybe he's not all up on Hornet info? Maybe he must have confused it with the "C" for "A+" trade out that "Jarhead" was talking about.
Granted, this is all second-hand info... but its from an NFO (former Tomcat guy), so who knows... maybe he's not all up on Hornet info? Maybe he must have confused it with the "C" for "A+" trade out that "Jarhead" was talking about.
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