Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa... Whoa... Whoa. Lois, this is not my Batman sippy cup.
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Marine Corps to Open Infantry Officer Course to Women
- Thread starter Random8145
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Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa... Whoa... Whoa. Lois, this is not my Batman sippy cup.
Good luck with that.
Here's the thing. Every attrite costs time, manpower, and money. If a given standard washes 10% of one group out and 90% of another, either the standard will get lowered or a lot of wasted effort will occur. The option of excluding the second group altogether isn't going to be on the table.
Not within a unit. Sure, a lot of guys I know go home with their share of women, but few of them are within the military ranks. I'd say women are far more likely to go home with someone from their unit than a guy, even if only due to numbers and women essentially having the pick of the litter due to their status of being a minority amongst a vast majority.
pay closer attention.
Sapper!
Excuse the BS...
Roger sir, but I'll stand by that statement any day!
RC is still right. The majority of males in the military date or marry civilians. It seems as if the vast majority of females in the military date/marry other service members. Take the conclusions for what you will, I think that's just the way it is.
Reconjoe
Active Member
and . . . . . the second group in your example could easily be applied to many other initiatives within DoD that attempt to "level the playing field" and make it more fair for everyone to play. My prediction? We will not exclude gender, sexual preference or ethnicity moving forward. And in order to do so, the standard will have to be lowered, no way around it.
OMG...that's the service community selection standard? Remember...aviation went through all of this crap...PAINFULLY...in the last two decades, and one day we understood that the airplanes just didn't care. Nor did the division leads, the section leads, the wingmen, the maintenance troops...well, you get the idea.
phrogpilot73
Well-Known Member
After having been in both a squadron and an infantry battalion, I can tell you that it IS different. There is a physical component to the work of an Infantryman that isn't necessarily prevalent in the squadron. I'm all about women serving in the infantry, but much like most fire departments - they have to pass a standardized physical test, where there are no gender normalized scores.
If it's implemented like this I'd be all for it but methinks that it won't quite work out that way.
One would imagine that this is the reason that SOF has been able to stiff-arm gender integration. I wonder how long it will last. Being that they already have a high attrition rate, it would seem like this would be a good a test case for gender neutral physical standards as any.