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Marine Cleared in Shooting

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KBayDog said:
Marines and Teens/Squids and Kids Night at Whiting Pines has been postponed indefinitely. The community center is closed until further notice due to hail/water damage. Thankfully, the package store is still up and running.
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I meant Seville ;)


[QUOTE}Speaking of The Pines, beginning next week, they are moving permanent party bachelors from the BOQ/BEQ into housing. Apparently the Q is completely jacked up from the hurricane and hail and needs a butt-ton of work before it can be lived in again.[/QUOTE]

WHOA! That's unreal.
 
gregsivers said:
KBayDog said:
Believe it or not, I've never been there.
I don't. Every self respecting SNA who has ever spent time in Pcola has been to Seville.
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Self respecting?!? That place is TERRIBLE. What was the topic of this thread again? Night life in Pcola? OH YA...that Marine deserved to get off, IMHO. Who wouldn't have shot that guy?? He was an enemy combatant, and enemy combatants get dead.
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I totally agree with that Marine's action in that situation. He felt his life and the lives of fellow Marines were in jeapordy and took action... just because the guy he shot didn't have a weapon did not mean that guy wasn't planning on trying to kill the Marines- he was an insurgent after all.

For those that don't think he made the correct decsion-If i remember correctly, the Marine knew the reporter was embedded with his unit. Obviously he felt the situation was serious enough that he was not concerned with this at the time of the incident (and he shouldn't have been anyway).

I think the conveining authority made the correct ruling in this case. I personally much rather a dead bad guy turn out to be unarmed and our guys come home alive, then another plane landing at Dover because someone was second guessing themselves or was concerned whether or not the enemy reall has a weapon on them or, how their actions might look in front of a reporter, preventing them from pulling the trigger...

Just my thoughts.

I think Seville sucks too...
 
All I know is that I wasn't there. I didn't witness it. What I know is what I saw on television. Therefore, I cannot have (and won't try to develop) an informed opinion one way or the other.

I just think it's amazing how the media was so eager to fry this kid when it happened, but now that it is over, the noise they are generating about it is as loud as a flea's fart.

BTW, if I were to believe what I saw on television - and JUST what I saw on television - I'd be no better than those criminals in 1992 who rioted based on the 30 seconds of Rodney King video the media fed us. (I haven't forgotten about the fact that he never even got a speeding ticket, even though he was videotaped going 90+ in a residential neighborhood while high on Angel Dust...)
 
One man's opinion re: the Marine cleared in shooting and other "second guesses" ..... by Ready-Room Commandos , the media, and the guy next door ..... you can't sit in judgement on the conduct of someone in combat unless you have been there .... unless you have "seen the Elephant" as someone once put it.

You can pass value judgements all day long, but they are not worth spit. They are all theoretical. It's just not possible to feel the emotion, adrenaline, and fear ..... unless you have experienced it.
 
Just curious, what happened to the media's job of giving us an unbiased view of what was happening in the world? I think I read about that in the regs somewhere... :confused:
 
Xeo111 said:
Just curious, what happened to the media's job of giving us an unbiased view of what was happening in the world? I think I read about that in the regs somewhere... :confused:
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OK, put down the crack pipe and get back into the fight!
 
You know, the more I think about it, the more angry I become at the news media.

Half the time they are making a HUGE deal out of the number of casualties in an attempt to discredit the war. Yeah, casualties ARE a huge deal, but you aren't honoring their sacrifice if you are just using a running "dead count" to attack the administration...if anything, I think it belittles them, which hurts even worse.

Then the OTHER half of the time, they are attacking the military for doing things (like this) which may seem *gasp* cruel, but are in fact results of individuals trying to NOT wind up on that "dead count," the media so gleefully plays out.

Which is it? Are you horrified that servicemen are dying, or horrified that servicemen are doing what it takes to ensure that they aren't dying?
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In a war where supposedly 100,000 Iraqi's have died (I know some anti-war friends who like to throw this unsourced statistic around), mass graves barely make a dent on the media's radar...but take a picture of a naked Iraqi prisoner - holy crap, PAGE 1!

It's like: "Evil American soldiers were found to have stomped on the Koran, and will be sent to a General Court-Martial sometime this month...in other news...10 Iraqi children were killed by a homicide bomber dressed as a woman at a playground in Najaf...
 
Well at least some people get it. If you want the truth don't go to the New York Times or the Washington Post. They wouldn't know unbiased truth if it blew up in their faces.
 
Speaking of the Washington COMPost:

Washington Post
May 7, 2005
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The Facts On Detainee Treatment


I was disappointed when I read the April 26 editorial "Impunity." What it proclaimed to be facts were really distortions and inaccuracies disguised as fact.

The real facts demonstrate that we've taken the issue of detainee mistreatment very seriously and have gone to enormous lengths to investigate all allegations, to hold those who have committed misconduct accountable and to institute reforms where needed.

The real facts show that 10 major lines of inquiry, including an independent panel composed of non-Department of Defense (DOD) personnel, found that the Defense Department did not promulgate interrogation policies or give guidance that directed, sanctioned or encouraged abuse. The DOD has always required detainees to be treated humanely.

The real facts illustrate that Lt. Gen. Ricardo S. Sanchez was completely forthright in his testimony before Congress concerning interrogation policies. The Post's selective use of one comment out of context is truly misleading.

The Post's continued distortion of the facts is a disservice to its readers and is insulting to the thousands of uniformed men and women who make sacrifices for our nation.

RICHARD B. MYERS, Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff, Washington
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