Looking for a female perspective on OCS

[eyzondapryz]

Believe it or not Hal, I did derive laughter from that post. I've thought the same thing about the opposite sex at some point in my life...

 

[SWCS242]

Haha, not gonna lie, that's pretty funny Hal.

 

[BACONATOR]

Just to clarify for all you women feasting on my apparent "prissiness", so what I'm bummed to cut my hair to an aghastly short length. I just found out today about the realities of the situation, shock and surprise are not uncommon reactions..Don't you worry about me, I'm sure you would never be able to guess who I was in OCS based on who you think I am here...Oh yeah, I love my gucci sunglasses by the way.

You think so, huh? Do you know who I AM??

Because all of OTCP knew who I was when I showed up to OCS.

Anonymity doesn't exist on the interweb....:icon_wink

I did not have to worry about the whole haircut thing since I am a guy but I was certainly worried about seemingly trivial things before attending OCS, just as eyzondapryz is. Not going to lie, if I was a girl I would probably be a little worried about the hair thing too. I don't think anybody here can truthfully say they did not worry about something that others might consider trivial or immature.

Stop defending this "damsel in distress". This concern about hair is absurd.

Mb1k's post summed it up EXACTLY. Hair should be the LAST thing on the mind. I wore a poopie suit for a week (actually 2 when we went back to squad bay) that smelled like PISS while I looked like a shaved monkey. Did I care? Hell no! I wanted my gold bar and flight slot and did what I could to make it through!

 

[TrunkMonkey]

There is a thing called personal identity and in an ideal world ...

Cry me a river. Come with me on this deployment and talk to some of the soldiers from the Army division leaving after a 15 month combat deployment about "personal identity" or "sacrifice". That's 15 months of wearing nothing but ACUs or PT gear, 15 months of all-Army-all-the-time, 15 months with no authorized physical contact with anyone, no chances to go have a beer and relax, etc.
That's a long f-ing time, and a long time to give up a lot of what makes you unique and makes you feel human. But they do it, because there's a war going on.
For the record, I am a chick. I have long hair. But I still think this whole thing is ridiculous. Cut it, it will grow.

 

[phrogpilot73]

All-in-all it must be a life I want pretty damn bad because such a sacrifice speaks volumes...

Oh yeah and FYI I just made a "real" sacrifice by being honest about what I'm sure many females are concerned about in the face of predictable male banter.

it can get heated when someone questions your desires and personal opinions on what sacrifice is.

In the grand scheme of life, yes haircuts are not a sacrifice. But, in my life, right now it is some sort of a sacrifice.

The bottom line is (as stupid as it may be) cutting my hair to that degree would be a type of sacrifice for me and telling me to "rethink" my aspirations isn't for him to say, especially based upon one response.

It's crazy how such a topic has created such a swarm of hornets...

I'll clue you in as to why it created a swarm of hornets. You repeatedly referred to a HAIRCUT as a sacrifice. A very large percentage of the user base here (male and female) are current and former Navy, Marine, Coast Guard, Army and Air Force pilots/NFO's/other communities. We get offended by referring to shortening your hair as a sacrifice, because we have served with (or will serve with in the near future) women the likes of Maj Tammy Duckworth. She knows what sacrifice is, and it sure as hell isn't a haircut.

Bottom line is this - if you want your questions to be well received - don't tell a group of people that may be facing their 3rd, 4th or higher deployment knowing that they're going to have to say good bye to their wife/husband and children AGAIN, and knowing in the back of their mind that they may not return this time; that a haircut is a sacrifice and that we don't understand.

 

[Schnugg]

well hal pilot, I'm glad your opinion on the matter grants you the authority to pass judgement on me..About sacrifice, maybe you should sacrifice your pride to learn how to spell...The only thing I need to rethink is how best to handle ignorant, macho comments such as yours..I'm more than ready, willing and able to give all that OCS and thereafter requires of me. Oh yeah and FYI I just made a "real" sacrifice by being honest about what I'm sure many females are concerned about in the face of predictable male banter..There is no "if I make it through", I'm making it and missing my long locks all the way through!

Hey, it grows back...what's the big deal?

Does it really "define who you are"??? if so, you need to rethink if the navy is for you.

Getting a haircut sure as hell ain't a sacrifice.

You think this guy was worried about his hair?

 

[MasterBates]

I smell a pre-manatee!

 

[Cams1215]

i dont want to know what grows back on a manatee........ ever....

 

[phrogpilot73]

Hey, it grows back...what's the big deal?

Does it really "define who you are"??? if so, you need to rethink if the navy is for you.

Getting a haircut sure as hell ain't a sacrifice.

You think this guy was worried about his hair?

In case you don't know who that is, you can start your research on sacrifice here.

 

[utak]

LT Murphy was also an OCS grad too.

 

[WIDGET]

wow

okay, so i wrote that comment just a couple days ago (or was it yesterday????). i didn't read everything in between then and now ... it seemed to get pretty intense. anyway... the whole "cutting the hair isn't a sacrifice" comment came from a dude... he has no idea. i think some people use this web site just to piss off other people.
my hair is still pretty short. honestly, it's been embarrassingly short until about 2 weeks ago. my last cut was in november. don't listen to people tell you it's a petty issue. if this is really bothering you, email me or call me and we can talk. people can get pretty harsh on this site.
but yes... bla bla bla ... it'll grow back.... yaddy ya ... it's just hair. honestly, when it really gets to me, i think about kids with leukemia. i know it sounds pretty lame ... but it's true. we're fortunate. a lot of girls from other classes wore wigs or got weaves after getting commissioned. you'll be alright. it'll be nice during OCS... less time shampooing = more sleep ... it's after earning your commission that it kinda sucks.

 

[a_m]

Women complaining about a hair cut ~ Men complaining about the lack of porn. It's no big issue.

 

[el douge]

HAHAHA! This is all very true. There's very little preperation that you can do other than a lot of physical stuff. My best friend is in week six right now and we talked once and he gave me a quick outline of how impossible it is to make OCS easier. Good Points Good points.

 

[eddie]

Women complaining about a hair cut ~ Men complaining about the lack of porn. It's no big issue.

If there is no porn at OCS, then what's all this I hear about poopie suits?

 

[HAL Pilot]

... the whole "cutting the hair isn't a sacrifice" comment came from a dude... he has no idea. i think some people use this web site just to piss off other people. .

Same dude, same comment. IT IS NOT A SACRIFICE. If you think it is, you have no business being an officer in any branch of the military.

TrunkMonkey - another woman - hit the nail on the head. She knows what true sacrifice is.

I can just see it. Some Sailor coming up to discuss a personal or professional problem with you. "Excuse me Ensign Widget, could we discuss this problem I'm...." "WAIT! You think you have problems - I had to CUT MY HAIR! There is NOTHING you could possible have WORST THAN THAT. Get out of my office with your silly ass problem while I wait for MY HAIR to grow back so my VANITY and LOSS OF FEMININITY do not take away my sense of self worth."

OK, you're upset because you had to cut your hair. Get over it. It IS NOT a sacrifice.

What's next? You going to ask the flight quack for a down chit because you broke a nail?

If this pisses you off - too bad. It's women whining about silly stuff like this that makes things harder for the other women who actually know what is important and what is trivial.