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Letter to Sen McCain RE CBRN use in Syria
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Somehow, I doubt that. ?
Too busy working on Naval Observer wings.. ?
Max the Mad Russian
Hands off Ukraine! Feet too
Aperture radar antennae, what else that could be? Codename "Needle One"
Wonder if Israeli Sufas jammed S-200 fusing. If they did, only one reason remains - IFF failure.
According to Wikipedia this is the only version left in Russian service; Il-20M Coot-A ELINT, electronic, radar reconnaissance version, so it is likely an antenna of some sort for one of those missions.
Don't discount Syrian incompetence.
The hinge in you is.....weak.
Sounds like you needed a better Intel-O or IS...ours are busting their hump out here on deployment...
This hinge can task at a faster cyclic rate than the nose cannon on an A-10...but I save my rounds for real targets, not shit work for no reason.
Upper level hingeing means people do the work for you and don’t even realize they are doing it...
BTW, thanks for the lookup on the IL-20M, I’ll remember that come FITREP season...
Max the Mad Russian
Hands off Ukraine! Feet too
Nevertheless, this underbelly canoe is for Needle radar. If that aircraft had been modified into ECM standard Il-22PP (hardly so - PP "Reaper" would jam S-200 easily), this cigar was probably adapted to contain some equipment of sort. Or for beer - Syria is quite hot place on the planet...
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Max the Mad Russian
Hands off Ukraine! Feet too
Ok, you are right. It is quite interesting though why Russian HQ accused Israeli AF.
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IFF "failure" is most likely. Syrian military incompetence is very, very well-noted in this conflict. But if the claim is true that the Israeli F-16s were shadowing the Il-20 and the "monkey model" variant of an already very outdated SAM system, then the missile's SARH guidance could have ended up following the signal of the most obvious/largest cross-section in the target area. SARH is tricky, especially with technology designed in the 1950s/60s. Sparrows weren't terribly impressive in Vietnam. But I don't know the specifics of long-range guidance systems to properly speculate why the missile would have gone for the Russian aircraft rather than the F-16s. Kindly correct me.
With that said, I question if the Syrians even have IFF. Very outdated technology on top of being an infamous Soviet export variant would be telling. Either way, the Syrian military was grossly incompetent in 2011, and at this point they're running on skeleton crews.
With that said, I question if the Syrians even have IFF. Very outdated technology on top of being an infamous Soviet export variant would be telling. Either way, the Syrian military was grossly incompetent in 2011, and at this point they're running on skeleton crews.
There could be a million different reasons why it happened but I would be wary of any claims coming from the Russians, Syrians or even Israelis with respect to this incident since they all have considerable self-interest not to be blamed for the death of 15 Russians. I would also be wary of speculating too much about the how here either.
Nope, that’s not how it works.
Silly people, the IL-20 was filled with Trump supporters (because Putin is a Big, BIG supporter of Trump) and, based on the capability of the A/C, were watching Fox News at the time of the Syrian engagement. This is a direct result of collusion between President Trump and the Russian government, nothing more, nothing less . . . .
Max the Mad Russian
Hands off Ukraine! Feet too
A chain of tragical coinsidences. That's what Putin said in Russian. When the SSGN Kursk sank in 2000, he said the same... Wonder what and when would be the next prey of that chain...
Blue on blue is a shitty way to go out, even if it is red on red.
Non-zero chance this event was calculated by Israel in order to drive a wedge between Asad and Russia.
Non-zero chance this event was calculated by Israel in order to drive a wedge between Asad and Russia.