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Kingsville T-45 IP Ejects

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Punk

Sky Pig Wrangler
pilot
drove by the crash site today

considering it flew itself into the ground, it remarkable intact, minus the front cockpit
 

skidkid

CAS Czar
pilot
Super Moderator
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Shaping up to be another bad year for safety all around going to be a lot more standdowns. Hey lets get safer flying by uhhhh not flying
 

TurnandBurn55

Drinking, flying, or looking busy!!
None
Yeah, for real. Word at the CTW-6 standdown was that we've already exceeded that last fiscal year's mishaps.

One wonders... when the OSD says-- "reduce mishaps by 50%"-- what's the plan there? Lectures about attention to detail at safety standowns? No rock climbing?

I mean... it begs the question as to if it was so easy to reduce those mishaps within a year... why weren't those measures implemented earlier? And if it's not that easy... why is such an aggressive goal demanded? Isn't it just wishful thinking, then?
 

Punk

Sky Pig Wrangler
pilot
gregsivers said:
It sure made for an interesting impromptu safety standdown today.

that it did

and my early morning flight tomorrow got cancelled, no waking at 530 for me :sleep_125
 

Singer6

Konichiwa *****es
I know the guy involved pretty well. And I can honestly say that there is NO ONE more knowledgable about the T-45 than this guy. If his plane went down, he did everything he could to keep it in the air. I noticed that the hook was down so I think he had other stuff going on before the crash. Sucky business this all is.
 

gregsivers

damn homeowners' associations
pilot
TurnandBurn55 said:
Yeah, for real. Word at the CTW-6 standdown was that we've already exceeded that last fiscal year's mishaps.

I think they said there was 1 Class A last year, and we've had 4 this year so far.
 

Brett327

Well-Known Member
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TurnandBurn55 said:
Yeah, for real. Word at the CTW-6 standdown was that we've already exceeded that last fiscal year's mishaps.

One wonders... when the OSD says-- "reduce mishaps by 50%"-- what's the plan there? Lectures about attention to detail at safety standowns? No rock climbing?

I mean... it begs the question as to if it was so easy to reduce those mishaps within a year... why weren't those measures implemented earlier? And if it's not that easy... why is such an aggressive goal demanded? Isn't it just wishful thinking, then?
The thing is, mishaps are always gonna happen. Higher authority can proclaim an intent to reduce them by whatever they want, but their occurance and frequency are largely random. With all the tools we have WRT safety, there's probably not a realistic way to significantly reduce mishaps. Look how far we've come since the 50s. Big picture, we're not doing so bad.

Brett
 

Mayday

I thought that was the recline!
No kidding. And the expectations just keep getting stiffer. Should I even quote A-4's...
God forbid, of course, that I really wish for this, because all safety mishaps involve real people living real lives, but I "wish" it would get worse and more frequent, just to slap the brass in the face with a "see, no matter what you do, it's acts of God and Nature that make this stuff happen, not uneducated/careless pilots."
 

Elder

US Coast Guard C-130 Demonstration Team
Mefesto said:
Wow!!! 12 hours after the incident... that's a record post! (For longest time between incident and post).

There's been a thread on this in the Mods forum waiting to see when it would pop up.

IP's ok... everything else is just details.


Eh, I'm in Clearwater and heard about it within the hour.. people from Whiting were calling friends in Kingsville before the AOM.. amazing how fast word travels. Haven't checked the helo board to see if the helo mishaps were posted. :p
 

flynsail

Well-Known Member
pilot
Mefesto said:
Wow!!! 12 hours after the incident... that's a record post! (For longest time between incident and post).

Well I haven't seen the other incident posted thus far. Is it a record post if it hasn't been posted?
 

Blacky

Props, baby!
pilot
Almost half of the mishaps this year have been caused by mother nature. Should we really be lectured about aircraft damage from hail?? Go lecture the maintenance guys for leaving the birds out in the weather and let me go back to sleep. I work too hard as it is...
 

beau

Registered User
**** happens....sometimes that **** can be controlled sometimes it can not.....just hiting the low point on the sine wave....
 
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