phrogpilot73
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Juniors/Seniors PLC Program Eliminated
- Thread starter Rasczak
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I could agree with that
I heard some scuttlebutt that less than half the people who make it through JR's go back (I think it was like 35%)
Indeejordan
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Will this make it more or less competitive to get into OCC? It could be less because they will be able to spend more money and accept more people or it could be more because more people will be applying to the same classes. What does everyone else think (if it is in fact true that is)?
I think that if the majority of people don't go from JR to SR, then the attrition rate for PLC is going to be alooooooot higher than it was before
Very good point ... I would much rather be a o-2 +4 than +3 ... as for the OCS expirence, Ill still take the 10.
Agreed, I thoroughly enjoy being an O-2 +6. And as far as OCS experience is concerned with 6 weeks you still have some summer left when you get home. Without Jrs and Srs no one will have the truly unique experience of laying in your rack after your second pickup asking yourself why you decided to go back for more. It always was fun last week of Seniors and walking by the OCC guys and saying something along the lines of "Only 7 more weeks boys." Good times.
I'll believe Jrs and Srs are canceled when I see the MCO and they change the website info http://officer.marines.com/page/Earning-a-Commission-O.jsp. Until then it's still a rumor.
Semper Fi,
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MotivatorJames
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Just got back from Juniors 1st increment yesterday and was told by our Company Commander that PLC Jrs./Srs. has not been eliminated yet, but the issue is being debated upon as we speak. He also spoke of the possibility that a week or 2 may be added to the Srs. course for those candidates like myself who have just completed the Jrs. course. This is the latest from OCS I have heard.
In the early 70s, we had over 1,000 for PLC JR and barely over 300 for PLC SR with just over 200 completing it successfully so 35% figure was pretty accurate for that era. Part of "sales" pitch was "try out PLC JR under no obligation" and there were plenty of folks who said they would complete the 6 weeks, but had no intention of returning. During PLC SR, they told they didn't need all of us and folks were either quitting or being shown the door right up to last day.
I did the two six weeks but If this program is eliminated I see the benefits:
1. I think the attrition between Jrs and Srs is fairly high "do I really want to go back to that place again" kind of stuff. Attrition is not a bad thing really, it does help to screen out those that want to be an Officer.
2. Travel costs are now cut in half, you only ship to and from OCS once vice twice-I am sure there is huge savings in this.
3. Training program will be uniform throughout making scheduling and training plans easier in some ways.
I went to OCS as a Freshmen and honestly looking back I was too young I think waiting until the Sophomore year is a good call, sure it is only a year but it does make a difference.
1. I think the attrition between Jrs and Srs is fairly high "do I really want to go back to that place again" kind of stuff. Attrition is not a bad thing really, it does help to screen out those that want to be an Officer.
2. Travel costs are now cut in half, you only ship to and from OCS once vice twice-I am sure there is huge savings in this.
3. Training program will be uniform throughout making scheduling and training plans easier in some ways.
I went to OCS as a Freshmen and honestly looking back I was too young I think waiting until the Sophomore year is a good call, sure it is only a year but it does make a difference.
Quite possible. I know two guys who finished Jr's. One dropped out of the program when he got back, the other told me he hasn't trained a day since coming back (which will make Sr's interesting).
Lonewolf02 said:
Maybe, but remember Jrs has guys there who are both Freshman and Sophomores so 370 Juniors to 190 Seniors in one year does not mean that there were 180 who decided to pursue another profession necessarily. I had a summer off after my Sophomore year before returining to Seniors.
Lonewolf02 said:
India only had about 280 at graduation, we started with a little over 300. The first few days was a mess because they only had 4 platoons. 1 female and 3 male so there were almost 100 people in the platoons. I have no idea what they were thinking when they were planning that out but they had to move some staff from the sr. class to our company to accommodate the massive numbers.