In my situation, should I rule out pilot/NFO and focus on Cryptologic Warfare?

[FormerRecruitingGuru]

For sure, but you can still toss SWO-intel as a top option with two follow on's? If someone is only putting SWO-intel down, they clearly haven't spent enough time browsing this forum to know you should fill out your options as competition is no joke.

I ask because originally my recruiter told me I could not even apply for IP as I lacked calc 2. I pointed out PA where it states "preferred" not required and was picked up first round. Some individuals might not know to push back on that sort of thing. I know that padre's recruiter is essentially telling him he shouldn't bother applying at all due to his waivers. I think this is a mistake and unless hes absolutely DQ'd it should be left up to the board to decide not the recruiter.

Great to know about SWO's who redes to IP - thank you!

I think you're trying to compare the active duty/OCS process against your/DCO experience. For DCO IP, I'm sure you had the work experience (whether civilian, military or both), education (i.e. a masters degree) and did well enough in the interviews for the boards to brush off the calc piece.

 

[surf3001x]

I think you're trying to compare the active duty/OCS process against your/DCO experience. For DCO IP, I'm sure you had the work experience (whether civilian, military or both), education (i.e. a masters degree) and did well enough in the interviews for the boards to brush off the calc piece.

I mean, my recruiter told me I literally would not be eligible for the program because of it. I pushed back and it came back down the chain that, yes he can apply, it is only preferred not required. I only had an undergrad at the time as well and was picked up first round.

I know for a fact that OP is facing a recruiter who's telling him he can't apply because he'll never make it with two waivers. I don't necessarily believe that's true and I know people apply many times before selection. Similarly, I don't agree that he can't apply for SWO-intel albeit I agree he most likely won't get picked up based on your assessment.

So my advice to him is, go with your plan of SWO-intel, intel, IP, and see where the chips lie. Make sure to completely demolish the OAR and I don't see his chances being any worse than mine were.

If everyone only went for the "sure thing jobs" we'd all be SWOs.

 

[exNavyOffRec]

I know for a fact that OP is facing a recruiter who's telling him he can't apply because he'll never make it with two waivers. I don't necessarily believe that's true and I know people apply many times before selection. Similarly, I don't agree that he can't apply for SWO-intel albeit I agree he most likely won't get picked up based on your assessment.

So my advice to him is, go with your plan of SWO-intel, intel, IP, and see where the chips lie. Make sure to completely demolish the OAR and I don't see his chances being any worse than mine were.

You CANNOT apply for what there are no quotas for, it literally isn't listed as an option on the dashboard.

SWO-CW has now been removed and SWO-IP has been zero'd out. The SWO options are going to be for USNA grads.

There are just a few circumstances where a recruiter/NRD can stop an application and this is one of them.

 

[surf3001x]

You CANNOT apply for what there are no quotas for, it literally isn't listed as an option on the dashboard.

SWO-CW has now been removed and SWO-IP has been zero'd out. The SWO options are going to be for USNA grads.

There are just a few circumstances where a recruiter/NRD can stop an application and this is one of them.

Good to know from the recruiters perspective. Interesting about SWO-IP.

So SWO-Intel as a first choice could/would be a show stopper. How about two waivers for the issues he mentioned?

 

[RhodesReese]

Also from the Intel OCM, this coming board will be the last board, on the active duty side, with no TIS requirement and then they will have a 10 year TIS max for prior enlisted. IP is going the same route but I don’t know when they intend to start. IP PA should be getting updated soon

 

[exNavyOffRec]

Good to know from the recruiters perspective. Interesting about SWO-IP.

So SWO-Intel as a first choice could/would be a show stopper. How about two waivers for the issues he mentioned?

you never know on waivers, for a long time certain small designators would discard anyone with a waiver, that isn't so much the case now, but it is still worth a shot. Given that SWO has been behind on selections I would put him in.

 

[exNavyOffRec]

Also from the Intel OCM, this coming board will be the last board, on the active duty side, with no TIS requirement and then they will have a 10 year TIS max for prior enlisted. IP is going the same route but I don’t know when they intend to start. IP PA should be getting updated soon

The all tend to update about the same time, once one comes out look for the others.