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NavyFTW -
Best of luck to you. What you are going through is NOT the end of the line. I've seen numerous people go all the way to the top and come back down and still finish whatever training they were in at the time. Some have continued on to be successful and some ended up failing in the end despite the second or third chances given. I'm sorry to say - but this business isn't for everyone. You should always have a backup plan. Numerous things could happen outside of training that could disqualify you for further aviation service. One of my RAG classmates made it all the way to his first week in the fleet until he found out that he had a medical condition which rendered him NPQ. Another friend was kicking butt in flight school right up until the time that he tried landing on the boat. He ended up in military police and then after one successful tour, got out and was hired on with the FBI.
I myself was disqualified 7 times from the AFROTC program but as others here have said - didn't give up. At OCS in-processing they again tried to DQ me for the two knee surgeries that I had had in high school and college. A Navy LT eventually gave me that chance to fail or succeed. and that was all I needed.
If you want it NavyFTW, don't give up. Simple as that. If you don't make it for whatever reason, then it wasn't meant to be.
USMCFLYR
Best of luck to you. What you are going through is NOT the end of the line. I've seen numerous people go all the way to the top and come back down and still finish whatever training they were in at the time. Some have continued on to be successful and some ended up failing in the end despite the second or third chances given. I'm sorry to say - but this business isn't for everyone. You should always have a backup plan. Numerous things could happen outside of training that could disqualify you for further aviation service. One of my RAG classmates made it all the way to his first week in the fleet until he found out that he had a medical condition which rendered him NPQ. Another friend was kicking butt in flight school right up until the time that he tried landing on the boat. He ended up in military police and then after one successful tour, got out and was hired on with the FBI.
I myself was disqualified 7 times from the AFROTC program but as others here have said - didn't give up. At OCS in-processing they again tried to DQ me for the two knee surgeries that I had had in high school and college. A Navy LT eventually gave me that chance to fail or succeed. and that was all I needed.
If you want it NavyFTW, don't give up. Simple as that. If you don't make it for whatever reason, then it wasn't meant to be.
USMCFLYR
How about focusing on comments that help FTW. If not, we're going to lock the thread. If you have issues with each other's post, please take advantage of the PM feature. if you want world to know, then use Visitor comments, but leave this thread for FTW-centric posts.
FTW,
Hang in there. It aint over till the Commodore says it is. My wife is in the pipeline and from what I have heard it is not uncommon to get your ass thrown around in that program. If your jacket doesn't look like a christmas tree you are supposedly God.
As for the instructor that told you to look elsewhere....again "Fuck That Guy." From what I have experienced being a family member in that pipeline I can tell you that in one of those squadrons the climate is piss poor dogshit and API Studs/ and MIDN are treated more like adults than their studs. Again hang in there and fight for what you want. It will be an uphill battle and it will take your every effort so keep prepping and stay motivated!
Hang in there. It aint over till the Commodore says it is. My wife is in the pipeline and from what I have heard it is not uncommon to get your ass thrown around in that program. If your jacket doesn't look like a christmas tree you are supposedly God.
As for the instructor that told you to look elsewhere....again "Fuck That Guy." From what I have experienced being a family member in that pipeline I can tell you that in one of those squadrons the climate is piss poor dogshit and API Studs/ and MIDN are treated more like adults than their studs. Again hang in there and fight for what you want. It will be an uphill battle and it will take your every effort so keep prepping and stay motivated!
Did you read heyjoe's post?
I know nothing about the 'system' in place today ... and I don't know anything about the specifics of the situation, but --- there are some basics, some constants that worked a long time ago and can still work ...
FTW: I know not what an 'adviser' is, but I know what a CO is ... and you say he recommended attrition for you ...
Were it me ... I'd request a meeting w/ the CO -- ASAP -- to see SPECIFICALLY WHY he said 'attrite' ... and see if you can't change his mind w/ your knowledge and determination. His input is crucial to whether or not you survive in the training program. If he says 'gone' ... you're probably gone. If he says 'keep' ... you've probably got another chance.
Wishin' & hopin' & waitin' doesn't get it done.
Action does ... maybe.
FTW: I know not what an 'adviser' is, but I know what a CO is ... and you say he recommended attrition for you ...
Were it me ... I'd request a meeting w/ the CO -- ASAP -- to see SPECIFICALLY WHY he said 'attrite' ... and see if you can't change his mind w/ your knowledge and determination. His input is crucial to whether or not you survive in the training program. If he says 'gone' ... you're probably gone. If he says 'keep' ... you've probably got another chance.
Wishin' & hopin' & waitin' doesn't get it done.
Action does ... maybe.
Ok, tomorrow is the big day.
A4s- Honestly I thought about going to the CO a few times. On the one hand I felt like he could tell me to my face if he wanted to axe me, but on the other, he's the CO and I'm an ensign. That, and I read the letter he wrote in my packet, he didn't say anything that was untrue or unfair. He gave me a few extra shots in-house and I still ended up with this meeting tomorrow.
That said, I think the whole thing about the instructor offering advice to look elsewhere may have been misinterpreted a bit? There's really no accounting for a lack of vocal tone on the internet. He was (and is) well intentioned and frank. He was one of the people that gave me a pink sheet and I still went to find him later for advice. The system works, I'm being owned by it now and I still think it works. If I stay, I stay and kick ass, if I don't, hey, I have a plan for ass kicking in other places. Everyone wins.
A4s- Honestly I thought about going to the CO a few times. On the one hand I felt like he could tell me to my face if he wanted to axe me, but on the other, he's the CO and I'm an ensign. That, and I read the letter he wrote in my packet, he didn't say anything that was untrue or unfair. He gave me a few extra shots in-house and I still ended up with this meeting tomorrow.
That said, I think the whole thing about the instructor offering advice to look elsewhere may have been misinterpreted a bit? There's really no accounting for a lack of vocal tone on the internet. He was (and is) well intentioned and frank. He was one of the people that gave me a pink sheet and I still went to find him later for advice. The system works, I'm being owned by it now and I still think it works. If I stay, I stay and kick ass, if I don't, hey, I have a plan for ass kicking in other places. Everyone wins.
Good luck tomorrow man. My fingers are crossed for you.
mtsupilot09
"We lookin fo you. We gon find you!"
FTW, hope today goes really well for you. Godspeed, man!
SUCCESS!!
Showed up in whites ready to rock, had every possible number memorized. He asked me what my issues were in training, I explained my delayed comprehension issues as well as a lack of natural talent for math. He went through my rollback options (which I didn't know were on the table) and offered me E-6's with his endorsement and I jumped all over it.
SO,
I still belong to the wing and my pipeline change packet has been submitted up the chain for review. Now the issue is whether or not the E-6 FRS will have me. If not, I re-des. But I have been given the shot, which is all I could hope to ask for anyway.
Thanks to everyone for the support and swift-kicks where needed. You're all the reasons I wanted to stay in the community.
Showed up in whites ready to rock, had every possible number memorized. He asked me what my issues were in training, I explained my delayed comprehension issues as well as a lack of natural talent for math. He went through my rollback options (which I didn't know were on the table) and offered me E-6's with his endorsement and I jumped all over it.
SO,
I still belong to the wing and my pipeline change packet has been submitted up the chain for review. Now the issue is whether or not the E-6 FRS will have me. If not, I re-des. But I have been given the shot, which is all I could hope to ask for anyway.
Thanks to everyone for the support and swift-kicks where needed. You're all the reasons I wanted to stay in the community.
mtsupilot09
"We lookin fo you. We gon find you!"
Congratulations! Hopefuly their FRS will take you and everything will be squared away! I'm really impressed with your perseverence. Sets a great example to those of us that are still months and months away from Pensacola. Again, congrats!