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Gun Laws in your state
- Thread starter Prod
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Wow...
MasterBates
Well-Known Member
If they go to public schools with knives, they are probably in danger of expulsion for carrying a pocketknife.
FYI, there are only tiny handful of colleges (I think just 3 in the entire country, but I am not certain) that do not accept federal and/or state financial aid of any kind, including grants, loans and scholarships. The vast majority of private colleges and universities accept government aid of some kind, especially through student loans and grants. That acceptance alone is enough to force compliance with certain federal laws, including Title IX.
I know plenty of students at VT that would not want that to happen, don't assume too much.
The problem is that a school can unconstitutionally expel a student for having a firearm concealed on campus...
...but getting expelled sure in hell beats the alternative of cowering under a desk praying that you don't die when something happens.
It's funny how all the school shootings we have heard of all occurred on campuses which don't allow guns, but who has heard of the Appalachian School of Law Shooting?
If you haven't heard of it, there is a reason for it: it's because the students all got their concealed weapons and subdued the shooter. Amazing. Apparently if everyday citizens have access to firearms, they are capable of responding to threats much more effectively than the relatively distant and slow-moving Police (And that is not a knock on cops).
...but getting expelled sure in hell beats the alternative of cowering under a desk praying that you don't die when something happens.
It's funny how all the school shootings we have heard of all occurred on campuses which don't allow guns, but who has heard of the Appalachian School of Law Shooting?
If you haven't heard of it, there is a reason for it: it's because the students all got their concealed weapons and subdued the shooter. Amazing. Apparently if everyday citizens have access to firearms, they are capable of responding to threats much more effectively than the relatively distant and slow-moving Police (And that is not a knock on cops).
zoomie08
Fast, Neat, Average...
Sounds good. That we we can vanquish all forms of intelligent thought and revert back to our animalistic caveman days where, to quote Thomas Hobbes, "the life of man [is] solitary, nasty, poore, brutish, and short."
Wow.
Well the three involved in subduing the shooter were two current LEOs and one former LEO (if I read the article correctly). Not sure I would call them "everyday citizens".
Try to keep it professional when referring to elected officials...comrade.helmet91 said:
Wow is right...
I'm pretty sure he's not advocating a Wild West approach to crime. He's merely implying that the bureaucratic non-sense from certain people in this country is really curtailing the rights of responisble citizens to be armed.
The Renegade
LT, SC, USN
That's President Obama, he at least earned that much respect.
There are current and former LEO's and military members, among others with weapons training, who are all over the place - even on campus.
Maybe they aren't "everyday citizens" in the sense of their training, but they are in the sense that they are just people who happened to be at the right place at the right time.
Illinois proposes mandatory $1million gun insurance
http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/midwest/2009/02/18/97987.htm
The proposed bill seeks to amend the state's Firearm Owners Identification Card Act to provides that any person who owns a firearm in the state maintain a $1 million or higher policy of liability insurance "specifically covering any damages resulting from negligent or willful acts involving the use of such firearm while it is owned by such person."
While it technically isn't a ban on personally owned firearms, it's the next best thing. How many insurance companies would provide said policy?
http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/midwest/2009/02/18/97987.htm
The proposed bill seeks to amend the state's Firearm Owners Identification Card Act to provides that any person who owns a firearm in the state maintain a $1 million or higher policy of liability insurance "specifically covering any damages resulting from negligent or willful acts involving the use of such firearm while it is owned by such person."
While it technically isn't a ban on personally owned firearms, it's the next best thing. How many insurance companies would provide said policy?
So hypothetically speaking if I willfully shot an intruder in my house, could their family sue me for damages? Because the way this reads it opens up endless possiblities for seeking damages regardless of the merit of the situation. And goodness knows here in America such litigious people do exist.
In my opinion this is just another attempt at disarming Americans by the left. Some liberal lawmakers tout that they "will not take your guns away"- I guess they mean that figurativly- because in reality they are making it harder and harder to legally own and operate a gun in the way the constitution has provided for us. I'm not talking felons- or other law breakers - I'm talking your average American.
As a sidenote, in 2001 we were at a NRA convention (we were initially there to support our friend who was a senator) and Charton Heston came and spoke about the decline of gun ownership in parts of Europe. It started very similarly to this- law after law was made that whittled down ownership rights, until it was next to illegal to own one at all.
How sad!
In my opinion this is just another attempt at disarming Americans by the left. Some liberal lawmakers tout that they "will not take your guns away"- I guess they mean that figurativly- because in reality they are making it harder and harder to legally own and operate a gun in the way the constitution has provided for us. I'm not talking felons- or other law breakers - I'm talking your average American.
As a sidenote, in 2001 we were at a NRA convention (we were initially there to support our friend who was a senator) and Charton Heston came and spoke about the decline of gun ownership in parts of Europe. It started very similarly to this- law after law was made that whittled down ownership rights, until it was next to illegal to own one at all.
How sad!